{"id":12248,"date":"2022-04-28T15:54:34","date_gmt":"2022-04-28T19:54:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=12248"},"modified":"2022-06-01T01:39:06","modified_gmt":"2022-06-01T05:39:06","slug":"on-holy-communion-vs-holy-mass-transubstantiation-consubstantiation-calvin-vs-luther-vs-rome","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=12248","title":{"rendered":"On Holy Communion vs. Holy Mass, Transubstantiation, Consubstantiation, Calvin vs. Luther vs. Rome"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In a recent FB debate, I am pushed to do this in depth research. In general, Calvin's view\/analysis is the best. It's not <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Transubstantiation\" target=\"_blank\">transubstantiation<\/a> of the Roman Catholics, nor <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Transubstantiation\" target=\"_blank\">consubstantiation<\/a> (which is actually just transubstantiation but just saying that the flesh and blood are also bread and wine at the same time - as if they're very smart at that \"supra-logical\" statement) as Martin Luther puts it, nor is it just symbolic as Zwingli had it, which many evangelical and charismatics subscribe to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ligonier.org\/learn\/articles\/calvins-doctrine-lords-supper\" target=\"_blank\">Ligonier<\/a> touched on Calvin's view, which Calvin largely discussed on in his <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes\/institutes.vi.xix.html\" target=\"_blank\">Institutes, book 4, chapter 18: Of the Popish Mass. How it not only profanes, but annihilates<\/a>. There are many more <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theologian.org.uk\/doctrine\/calvinonthelordssupper.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">resources<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is where I shall do in-depth study on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a recent FB debate, I am pushed to do this in depth research. In general, Calvin's view\/analysis is the best. It's not transubstantiation of the Roman Catholics, nor consubstantiation (which is actually just transubstantiation but just saying that the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=12248\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-projects","category-theologization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12248","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12248"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12248\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12471,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12248\/revisions\/12471"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12248"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12248"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12248"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}