{"id":1754,"date":"2010-08-21T17:57:27","date_gmt":"2010-08-21T17:57:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=1754"},"modified":"2021-05-12T19:32:07","modified_gmt":"2021-05-12T23:32:07","slug":"remarks-on-cccny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=1754","title":{"rendered":"Remarks on CCCNY"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As I have commented the negative of other churches. It is only fair for me to comment upon the one I'm attending.<\/p>\n<p>Why<br \/>\nI attend CCCNY? The one humble reason is: The use of hymnals as the only<br \/>\nmusic media in worship. One can note that it is hard to find a chinese<br \/>\nchurch of this sort. It would appear that this is a suicide style in<br \/>\ntoday's churches.<\/p>\n<p>Although many english traditional churches still<br \/>\nmake use of classical hymnals, they either divide their services into a<br \/>\n\"classical hymns\" for old people group and a \"hip music\" for the younger generation (This only shows that their leaders should spend more time on<br \/>\nstudying music and its theory, what music is.) or become self-confined<br \/>\nworshippers who could only admire the beauty of hymnals themselves and<br \/>\nnot be able to share it (Someone needs to remind them that they are<br \/>\nwrong in thinking that the commission of Jesus Christ is not for them).<\/p>\n<p>Now, back to the central topic. After I have mentioned the good part, here comes the bad ones.<\/p>\n<p>I am not comparing this church to any other. But my discernment is based on what is expected of the church and its leaders.<\/p>\n<p>First<br \/>\noff, this is a reformed church, and one whose many leaders and elders<br \/>\nare well acquainted with&nbsp; Dr. Tong's ministry as well as Dr. Tong<br \/>\nhimself in person.<\/p>\n<p>What I can see is, as much as these have<br \/>\nlistened to Dr. Tong's lectures, seminar, sermons, etc. they are more of admirers and \"high class\" friendship seekers than true students of<br \/>\nthe word of God. Yes, I do see some effect, for Dr. Stephen Tong is<br \/>\ntruly God's servant and therefore his sermons have some \"side\" (in a<br \/>\ngood way) effects on these people. I used \"side effect\" even though I<br \/>\nput it in a positive sense because I do not think this is what these<br \/>\npeople are aftering themselves. Just like if I keep repeating \"for God<br \/>\nso love the world...\" in my class, all my students would be able to<br \/>\nquote John 3:16 by heart but they may not be aware of it or its meaning.<br \/>\nSometimes it is the teacher who is the problem, but not in this case.<br \/>\nWhat's the obstacle then? It's their pride for thinking that their<br \/>\nrelationship with Dr. Tong is special enough to not care about seeking<br \/>\nafter the Kingdom of God.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore problems exist. For example,<br \/>\nPastor Laura Lin consistently has issues with elder Lyna Lim in some<br \/>\nvery general things. As for Lyna, frequently tempted by the realm of the<br \/>\npentecostal excitement.<\/p>\n<p>Thus this will be in my prayer.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly,<br \/>\nis the incompetence of organization. Doing a lot of useless things just<br \/>\nbecause \"Oh I'm afraid it would be too much work for you\" kind of<br \/>\nnotion. Pastor Laura Lin once (well more than once) asked me if I needed<br \/>\nsome help when I was assigned a certain task which I have agreed to<br \/>\nweeks ago and awaiting for her confirmation to proceed to certain stage,<br \/>\nmy more direct response was: <em>There\u2019s no such thing as too much work<br \/>\nor too little work in God\u2019s kingdom. Only willing and wise servants and<br \/>\nthe rest as principled from Gideon\u2019s 300 soldiers. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Why did I<br \/>\nrespond this way? Because she uses not biblical teachings in choosing<br \/>\nco-workers. This is something even non-christians knew. It's as if when<br \/>\none becomes a Christian, one becomes dumber. When we pick people to work<br \/>\nwith us, we do not pick them just because they are \"part of\" our<br \/>\nmembership. We pick them because we know they have the willingness for this and we see the right qualification in them for certain tasks and we pick them for that particular tasks.<br \/>\nUnfortunately, Laura is either ignorant of such fact and expects God to<br \/>\n\"fix it all\" Himself or she really just haven't advanced to this part of<br \/>\nlife lesson yet. It is pathetic to think those who are single should<br \/>\nserve more and those who have married and have children should serve<br \/>\nless. Never have I read such kind of verse in scripture. Perhaps she did<br \/>\nit this way to make families comfortable enough to want to stay and not<br \/>\nleave while the \"singles\" are disposable unless they have \"higher<br \/>\nclass\" friendship status.<\/p>\n<p>The other major issue is regarding<br \/>\nmusic books for the choir for STEMI rally. I voiced that it is important<br \/>\nthat every members should buy their own music (after all it's only<br \/>\naround $12-$15 dollars and we're not living in Siberia) instead of \"free<br \/>\nwill offering\" or sponsorship by STEMI. Something pastor Lin realized<br \/>\ntoo late, while Lyna pretended she agreed with me in the beginning. Why<br \/>\nwould they not listen? My only guess is that they are holding onto the<br \/>\nfundamental failure of Ameristians: See I am so nice to you so you must<br \/>\nbe nice back to me otherwise God will praise me anyway for the unpaid<br \/>\nniceness (A misunderstanding of Luke 6:31 while ignoring 1Peter 2:20).<\/p>\n<p>I<br \/>\nwouldn't be surprised if Laura or Lyna praise Uzzah for what he did and<br \/>\ncondemn David or the others for not \"helping out\" Uzzah or warning him<br \/>\nabout not to touch the Ark. It is always amazing how those who interpret<br \/>\nthe word this way always \"forget\" to blame God Himself for striking the<br \/>\n\"wrong\" guy. Perhaps they would like to assume that Uzzah somehow has a<br \/>\ndirtier heart than they themselves to begin with which is just way off<br \/>\nthe topic of the passage.<\/p>\n<p>Thirdly, is the incompetence of<br \/>\neducation. This is my most struggle. It is so obvious that they lack so<br \/>\nmuch in this area that they'd rather find some scapegoat like me than<br \/>\npolishing and improving themselves. They have the blessings and benefit<br \/>\nof this country while Uncle Sam is abusing and manipulating material<br \/>\nresources for selfish gain, they have attended Stephen Tong's seminaries more than I (which I wonder what they had been doing all those times), yet they still need to rely on outsiders.<br \/>\nThis shows laziness, unwilllingness to seek after God, and hypocrisy if<br \/>\nthey deny the above. Thus a new form of Pharisees who obviously need the<br \/>\nkind of rebuking my Lord has given 2,000 years ago. If God calls not me<br \/>\nfor such task, I pray for him whom God calls.<\/p>\n<p>The leadership at this church sees no authority in God as teacher (though I see a few members in the congregation are not so).<\/p>\n<p>Fourthly, now I'm being commanded to be the youth's counsellor in the summer retreat. I should do all my best as my Lord has told me in Matthew 23. But I must watch out for these foxes. I have put much entries on this subject, so I should here only repeat one of my statements: American Christians are expert at wasting people's time and money and energy. Why couldn't they plan (they were given the opportunity for at least a year) and train and prepare those who are willing and capable to attend their stupid retreat so that it will be \"not so stupid\"? Instead of asking me? Are they really that impotent? Not only will I do my best and rely totally on God's grace and away from their hypocritical praises, I should not take their ride (Good thing there's a train to that place - otherwise I'd rather take a $200 taxi) lest I owe them anything. There can be no packs between men and dogs. May God grant me this scepter.<\/p>\n<p>Last but not least, is the celibacy of Lyna as well as Laura. Which I really do not think has anything to do with God's calling to celibacy. For Lyna perhaps it's similar to a Suzanne of Flushing Faith Bible church's situation, where she's too full of herself no men want to touch her. As for Laura, I do not know, it would seem like she was either born impotent or abused or suffered other similar family problem when she was younger, but apparently God's grace has covered her thus far, for the better of this church in this pathetic nation. Whatever it is, unless it was the case of \"born an eunuch\", it is unlikely God's call to a celibate life for it seems to have to do with selfish preferences than a sacrificial mean for the Kingdom of Heaven.<\/p>\n<p>In<br \/>\norder to show them the path and teach them with whatever authorithy I<br \/>\nhave now, I have to make sure I do not mix up with them, despite all the<br \/>\ntasks they want me to obey.<\/p>\n<p>So help me God, that in my abiding<br \/>\nby their and pastor Laura Lin (\u6797\u7f8e\u96f2)'s authority and praying for them, I<br \/>\nam guided solely by Thee and I do not follow them, their ways, for<br \/>\nblessed is he who walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor<br \/>\nstandeth in the way of sinners.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I have commented the negative of other churches. It is only fair for me to comment upon the one I'm attending. Why I attend CCCNY? 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