{"id":1820,"date":"2010-10-23T23:58:59","date_gmt":"2010-10-23T23:58:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=1820"},"modified":"2010-10-23T23:58:59","modified_gmt":"2010-10-23T23:58:59","slug":"from-shem-to-isaac,-did-they-meet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=1820","title":{"rendered":"From Shem to Isaac, Did they meet?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nI've made this summary of Shem's lineage from Genesis 11:\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI<br \/>\nbelieve the Biblical geneology in this chapter to be as plain as that of<br \/>\nGenesis 5. Nothing complex like that of Matthew 1 &amp; Luke 3. If one<br \/>\ncould be stated to live hundreds of years, there's no need to suggest<br \/>\nthere are missing generations not mentioned in between as some would<br \/>\nlike to imagine. Just as the fact that if numbers like 403 is mentioned,<br \/>\nI see no reason to feel there's any rounding of number used in the<br \/>\naccount of any of their ages. \n<\/p>\n<p>\n(From Genesis 17, we know that Abraham begat Isaac at age 100 years)\n<\/p>\n<p>\nShem Begat Arphaxad at 100. He lived 500 more years.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nArphaxad begat Salah at 35. Lived 403 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSalah begat Eber at 30. Lived 403 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nEber begat Peleg at 34. Lived 430 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nPeleg begat Reu at 30. Lived&nbsp; 209 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nReu begat Serug at 32. Lived 207 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSerug begat Nahor at 30. Lived 200 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nNahor begat Terah at&nbsp; 29. Lived 119 more.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nTerah<br \/>\nbegat sons at 70 (Abraham at 130, for calculating his death and Abram's<br \/>\ndepature at 75 in Gen. 12 and Stephen's account in Acts 7, thus putting<br \/>\nAbram not the first but perhaps the last, as agreed by Albert Barnes<br \/>\nand Matthew Henry but ignored by Keil &amp; Delitzsch). He died at age<br \/>\n205.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAbraham begat Isaac at 100. Died at 175. This makes Shem 490 when Isaac was born, 110 years before his death at 600.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOf<br \/>\ncourse, according to the Targums (Jonathan &amp; Jerusalem), thanks to<br \/>\nJohn Gill's note, the Jews believe that Isaac went to the &quot;School of<br \/>\nShem&quot; in Genesis 24:62.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI reserve my opinion here. But beyond the<br \/>\nfact that Shem was still alive, I can only find it interesting if Shem,<br \/>\nIsaac's great great great....grandfather, had talked with Isaac. From<br \/>\nhere to anything more creative, is beyond what is given.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOf<br \/>\ncourse, I would also like to note that it is interesting how most would<br \/>\nbear children&nbsp; at around age 30. Except Shem, Terah and Abram. While it<br \/>\ncould be possible Terah had children before the 3 brothers, I doubt it.<br \/>\nAnd Abram couldn't have children with Sara for she was barren until 90.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSo,<br \/>\non a different topic, I do wander, since Genesis 5 accounts for much<br \/>\nolder age to have children (I believe most were first born), if there is<br \/>\na gap of an ideal age to bear children? If such gap was real, did the<br \/>\nancients practise such out of wisdom? or something else? Granted, the<br \/>\nshorter men's lifespan becomes, the earlier they begat offsprings. But<br \/>\nwhat would stop the ancients from having their youngs earlier? I doubt<br \/>\nthat biological maturity is the issue here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I've made this summary of Shem's lineage from Genesis 11: I believe the Biblical geneology in this chapter to be as plain as that of Genesis 5. Nothing complex like that of Matthew 1 &amp; Luke 3. 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