{"id":20717,"date":"2026-05-06T23:19:11","date_gmt":"2026-05-07T03:19:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=20717"},"modified":"2026-05-14T17:39:01","modified_gmt":"2026-05-14T21:39:01","slug":"the-master-key-for-reaching-muslims","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=20717","title":{"rendered":"\"The Master Key\" for Reaching Muslims"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This entry documents everything related to the Christian Underground Ministry which I find fascinating as a resource for evangelizing Muslims.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of Allie's best podcast for sure, this interview with Shahriq Khan:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Ex-Muslim: The Only Way to Stop Sharia Law in the US | Shahriq Khan | Ep 1340\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qzKbU_ij1uI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It's the first time I heard of this guy. Nabeel Qureshi was mentioned in the interview. But Khan is rather zealous of reaching the Muslims, even the hardcore Islam scholars. And his unique technique, not sure if it's developed by him or his other fellow co-workers (Pastor Greg Armstrong, Alex Kerimli, etc.) who run a sort of global ministry (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.skool.com\/christ\">online<\/a>?) called Christian Underground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the unique approach Khan claims was to use only Torah against only Qur'an. Pointing out various odd stories the Qur'an mixed up about the Torah in order to show that there's no reason for the Torah to be corrupted, which consequently could only mean that the Qur'an is corrupt. I would say that this approach is close to the Islamic Dilemma: <em>a theological argument, primarily posed by Christian apologists, highlighting a contradiction between the Quran's affirmation of the Bible (Torah and Gospel) and its denial of key biblical doctrines.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They do run a rather active online community, free sign up at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skool.com\/christ\">https:\/\/www.skool.com\/christ<\/a>. They also seem to be very dedicated to what Khan's motto seems to be: Why deport Muslims? Why hate them? why not convert them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I just went on their first interactive stream today and Alex (later Armstrong) was giving the lecture on the Passover (the Qur'an completely lacks this concept) and the fact that Qur'an said that Moses took the Israelites out of Egypt without Pharaoh's permission. And I also tackled deeper, primarily with the help of A.I. on this fascinating topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If it's good, I'll summarize their <strong>Master Key<\/strong> of <strong>Deconstructing <\/strong>the REAL 5 pillars of Islam and <strong>Constructing <\/strong>the Biblical 5 pillars:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Islam<\/strong>:<br>1. The Torah was Corrupted<br>2. The Quran and the Torah have the Same Author (God)<br>3. Abraham and Ishmael travelled to Mecca and Built the Kaaba<br>4. Ishmael is the Father of the Meccan Arabs and Muhammad was an Ishmaelite<br>5. Muhammad Followed in the Pattern of Previous Prophets and Received his Revelation Similarly to Moses<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Biblical<\/strong>:<br>1. Original Sin<br>2. Blood Atonement is Necessary<br>3. Theophanies<br>4. The suffering Servant<br>5. The Gospel<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And of course, there's already <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/164814140\/Debunking_Greg_Armstrong_and_Alex_Kerimli_s_THE_MASTER_STRATEGY_FOR_REACHING_MUSLIMS_Volume_1_pillar_1_3\">attempt<\/a> to debunk their work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learned a few things (Thanks to Google AI's help):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <strong>two main kinds of suras<\/strong> (chapters) in the Qur'an are <mark><strong>Meccan<\/strong> and <strong>Medinan<\/strong><\/mark>, classified by whether they were revealed <strong>before or after<\/strong> the Prophet Muhammad's migration (<strong>Hijrah<\/strong>) to <strong>Medina<\/strong>. Meccan suras focus on faith and the afterlife, while Medinan suras address social, political, and legal issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Meccan Suras (Makkiyyah):<\/strong> Generally revealed earlier (86 total). They are usually shorter, with shorter verses, focusing on belief in Allah, Paradise\/Hell, and stories of past prophets.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Medinan Suras (Madaniyyah):<\/strong> Revealed after the Hijrah (28 total). They are typically longer and deal with laws, community organization, family life, and rules of war.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the Passover, since I took a look today, it's interesting that according to Google AI, a Muslim scholars would argue that the lack of Passover in Quranic Exodus was intentional, based on the principle <strong>\"No bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another\"<\/strong> (Qur'an 6:164). So by this principle, the whole concept of sacrificial lamb is also removed on top of the 10th plague in Egypt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the Christian response would generally be (Google AI):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Proportionate justice<\/strong> (Genesis 12:3, Exodus 1:22, the sin of Egypt),<br><strong>Divine sovereignty<\/strong> (original sin is unavoidable, everyone eventually dies, God choosing the <em>timing<\/em> of that death is not an act of injustice), and<br><strong>Redemptive foreshadowing<\/strong> (The plague was not restricted by ethnicity, any Egyptian who feared the God of Israel and followed the instructions to put blood on their doorposts would have been spared.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Someone in the discussion also mentioned that his <strong>Muslim friends gave him a hard time about the fact that in Joseph's time, Pharaohs do not exist, only kings in Egypt<\/strong>. Which is true, that Pharaoh was not a title used before the New Kingdom in Egypt. But this would just be <strong>anachronism <\/strong>in literature (like King David longed for his <strong>Coca-Cola<\/strong> from his hometown), and the Bible use \"Pharaoh\" and \"king\" interchangeably (i.e. Genesis 39:20 and Exodus 1:8). The word <em>Pharaoh<\/em> literally means <strong>\"Great House\"<\/strong> and thus could just be descriptive of supreme authority of Egypt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Update 5\/14\/2026:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It's interesting to see how Muslims view sins, particularly whether there are sinless people in the world or not. I believe this is an important insight because our view of the seriousness of sins come from two very different worldviews. Here's Google AI's take:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>So the muslims believe that prophets are not corrupt or sinless?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, in Islam, it is a foundational belief that prophets are not corrupt, immoral, or untrustworthy. They are considered chosen, moral exemplars. [<a href=\"https:\/\/al-islam.org\/infallibility-prophets-quran-sayyid-muhammad-rizvi\/why-ismah\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/611780530133622\/posts\/1574243753887290\/\">2<\/a>]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The concept of their sinlessness is known as <em><strong>'Ismah<\/strong><\/em> (infallibility or divine protection). However, there is a nuance between different schools of thought regarding whether they are absolutely sinless or protected specifically from major sins. [<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ismah\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=CdlxbmeDHKg&amp;t=11\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=I3zRxS_VfMQ&amp;t=12\">3<\/a>]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is a breakdown of the belief:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1. Protection from Corruption ('Ismah)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>No Major Sins:<\/strong> There is a consensus among scholars that prophets are protected from committing major sins (such as idolatry, lying, or murder) throughout their lives, both before and after receiving revelation.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Perfect Delivery:<\/strong> They are considered completely infallible in their task of receiving and delivering the message of God.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Role Models:<\/strong> Because they are intended to be followed, they are guided by God to be moral exemplars rather than corrupt individuals. [<a href=\"https:\/\/seekersguidance.org\/answers\/islamic-belief\/what-is-the-concept-of-infallibility-isma-for-prophets\/\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/islamqa.info\/en\/answers\/42216\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.call-to-monotheism.com\/understanding_the_sinlessness_of_the_prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him___by_sheikh_salih_al_munajjid\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/islam.stackexchange.com\/questions\/7289\/were-the-prophets-such-as-christ-infallible-in-islams-point-of-view\">4<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2mO8KRzZEcY&amp;t=48\">5<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2. The Nuance of \"Sinlessness\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Majority (Sunni) View:<\/strong> Most Sunni scholars believe that while prophets are protected from major sins and mistakes in delivering God's message, they might commit minor, unintentional errors (referred to as <em>saghira<\/em>), but they do not persist in them, and God immediately corrects them.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Minority (Shia) View:<\/strong> Shia theology (as detailed in this <a href=\"https:\/\/al-islam.org\/infallibility-prophets-quran-sayyid-muhammad-rizvi\/muslims-belief-ismah\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Al-Islam.org article<\/a>) holds a stricter view, often considering prophets, and in their view, Imams, to be completely infallible and incapable of any sin or mistake, major or minor, intentional or inadvertent, from birth to death. [<a href=\"https:\/\/aboutislam.net\/counseling\/ask-about-islam\/are-the-prophets-sinless-should-a-muslim-believe-in-the-israiliyat\/\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/al-islam.org\/infallibility-prophets-quran-sayyid-muhammad-rizvi\/muslims-belief-ismah\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ismah\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.call-to-monotheism.com\/understanding_the_sinlessness_of_the_prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him___by_sheikh_salih_al_munajjid\">4<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">3. Understanding Verses on Prophetic Mistakes<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the Quran, some prophets ask for forgiveness, or are corrected by God (e.g., <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/quranexplainsquran.quora.com\/If-Adam-was-the-first-prophet-and-Islam-states-that-the-prophets-were-sinless-how-do-we-understand-this\">this Quora post<\/a> cites Quran 48:2 regarding Muhammad, or 20:115 regarding Adam). [<a href=\"https:\/\/quranexplainsquran.quora.com\/If-Adam-was-the-first-prophet-and-Islam-states-that-the-prophets-were-sinless-how-do-we-understand-this\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/Is-it-true-that-all-prophets-in-the-Quran-were-without-sin-If-so-did-Adam-sin-when-he-ate-from-the-tree-of-knowledge\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=olqdXj1ikz0\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=CdlxbmeDHKg&amp;t=11\">4<\/a>]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Interpretation:<\/strong> Muslim scholars interpret these instances not as immoral sins, but as \"shortfalls\" or \"less than ideal actions\" (called <em>tark al-awla<\/em>\u2014leaving what is better).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Purpose:<\/strong> These moments are meant to show their humanity and to provide lessons for believers on repentance. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8LhwBtm2hfk&amp;t=11\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/raleighmasjid.org\/learn-about-messengers\/\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/aboutislam.net\/counseling\/ask-about-islam\/are-the-prophets-sinless-should-a-muslim-believe-in-the-israiliyat\/\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/611780530133622\/posts\/1574243753887290\/\">4<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In summary, Muslims believe prophets are not corrupt and are divinely protected from major sins and immoral acts, with differing views on whether they were capable of minor, unintentional slips. [<a href=\"https:\/\/aboutislam.net\/counseling\/ask-about-islam\/are-the-prophets-sinless-should-a-muslim-believe-in-the-israiliyat\/\">1<\/a>]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This entry documents everything related to the Christian Underground Ministry which I find fascinating as a resource for evangelizing Muslims. 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