{"id":2400,"date":"2012-05-11T16:57:33","date_gmt":"2012-05-11T16:57:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=2400"},"modified":"2012-05-11T16:57:33","modified_gmt":"2012-05-11T16:57:33","slug":"on-the-messianic-jews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=2400","title":{"rendered":"On the Messianic Jews"},"content":{"rendered":"

\nLoathing the replacement theology (Supersessionism), the Messianic Jews (Jews for Jesus, Chosen People's Ministry, etc.) differs from the Messianic Nazarene Yisrael. This article<\/a> details their differences.\n<\/p>\n

\nI paste here in case of broken link:\n<\/p>\n

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PART 12 IN
\nTHE SERIES ON THE RESTORATION OF ALL ISRAEL<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n

A GENERAL
\nOVERVIEW OF THE MESSIANIC JEWISH AND <\/strong><\/span>
\n
\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael <\/span><\/span>
\nMOVEMENTS<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n

<\/dir><\/p>\n

By Rabbi\/Brother Moshe Yoseph
\nKoniuchowsky<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

\nThe
\nChurch<\/strong><\/span><\/u>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews the church as a separate and predominantly "gentile" entity,
\napart from the people of Israel (i.e. the Jews). Both make up the body, yet
\nremain distinct and separate never actually fully coming together this side of
\nheaven. The best that can be hoped for is toleration and understanding, not full
\nunity such as joint services.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\ndoes not recognize the church as a separate entity apart from the covenant
\npeople of Israel. According to Messianic Nazarene Yisrael, there is no such thing as
\n"the church", rather the ekklesia of New Covenant Israel consists of
\nsaved Jews, saved Israelites (remnant of the 10 tribes), along with
\nnon-Israelites, all making up Yahshua’s ekklesia. The ekklesia is one both
\nnow and forever.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nGentile
\nBelievers<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews saved gentiles as non Israelites, who have no Israelite blood whatsoever,
\nhaving no legitimate claim to be physically descended from the patriarchs
\nAbraham, Isaac and Jacob. They believe that any born again "gentile",
\nwho claims physical descent from the patriarchs, either has a drop of Jewish
\nblood from an ancient grandparent, or are just Jewish wannabe’s, engaged in
\ndelusion. Views the concept that any saved non-Jewish believer, could be a lost
\nnon-Jewish Israelite, as utter nonsense.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that most of the non-Jewish followers of Yahshua are Ephraimites, those
\nwho were scattered amongst the gentile nations starting in 721 BCE. They were
\nthe Lo Ami of Hosea one, who were not a people, but have now been restored as
\nindividuals as promised by the prophets, through Israel’s Messiah. These
\nlatter day "gentiles", are washed and then awakened to their Israelite
\nheritage by Messiah Yahshua, in fulfillment of many promises. Their recognition
\nof their identity as the seed of Ephraim and their union with Jewish Israel, is
\na necessity for all Israel to be saved and for the Kingdom to be restored to
\nIsrael.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nSalvation<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews the re-gathering, identification and claim of non-Jewish believers as the
\nother House of Israel as heresy. Believe the concept of the two houses of a
\nsingle entity known as Israel, to be DNA salvation, or salvation by one’s
\nbloodline, instead of grace through faith. Falsely accuses two house proponents
\nof teaching that salvation is only for Israelites and not for non-Israelites.
\nView Yahshua’s blood as the means by which Yahshua saves any individual who
\ncalls on Him, yet excludes the reality of scattered Israelites (10 tribe
\nEphraimites), being saved. Salvation is to Jew and Gentile.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews the gift of salvation as a free gift for whosoever will. Having said that
\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael does in fact teach that Ephraim’s seed has fulfilled the
\npromise of physical multiplicity given to the patriarchs and views the
\nre-gathering of the latter day "gentiles", as consisting mostly of
\nlost Israelites. View Yahshua’s blood as the power of salvation for every
\nhuman being, including the 12 tribes scattered worldwide. Salvation is to Jew,
\nthe lost Israelite individual and non-Israelite.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nCommonwealth
\nof Israel<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews this commonwealth as the Messianic Jews plus "the church", as
\nbeing the Commonwealth. Within the Commonwealth of Israel, Messianic Judaism
\nseparates Jews and non-Jews into separate entities, despite claims to the
\ncontrary. They hold two different sets of standards for believers in the
\n"church" and in the Messianic Jewish movement. Torah is a privilege
\nand burden that only Messianic Jews can carry and participate in, but
\n"gentiles" cannot and should not practice Torah, outside of either the
\nlimited Acts 15 Jerusalem Council requirements, or the manmade rabbinical
\nNoachide laws.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that all in the Commonwealth of Israel purchased by Yahshua’s blood
\nare Israelites, with full privileges of citizenship. Believes that the believer’s
\nidentity as Israel supercedes any identity as a Jew, a "gentile",
\nmale, female, bond, free etc. All members of the body are Israelites, either
\nthrough physical birth (two houses) or engrafting (Gerim), thus producing one
\nholy covenant nation called New Covenant Israel, or the body of Yahshua. These
\nIsraelites are at the same time both physical and spiritual Israelites, since
\nall disciples are physical beings that have received the Ruach Hakodesh. All
\nIsraelites not only can carry the obligations of Torah, but are required to do
\nso, making no differential between a Jewish Israelite believer and a non Jewish
\nIsraelite believer.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nSpiritual
\nvs. Physical Israel<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nbelieves that Jewish believers are physical Israel and that non-Jewish
\n"gentile" believers are spiritual Israel. These two entities are
\nsupposedly both Israel, thus establishing two brides. Messianic Judaism’s main
\nconcern is that this spiritual Israel "i.e. the church", does not
\nreplace or nullify the promises made to physical Israel "i.e. the
\nJews." While on one hand strongly dedicated to fighting replacement
\ntheology, they perpetuate its very survival by recognizing non-Jewish believers
\nas some sort of a spiritual Israel. Thus Messianic Judaism propagates the war
\nbetween these two claimants of the title of Israel, where one or the other can
\nclaim superiority or a more chosen status over and at the expense of the other.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that there are not two brides of Messiah Yahshua, but in fact just one.
\nThis bride is called Israel and is made up of those rescued from the nations
\namong all 12 tribes. Thus the House of Judah and the House of Israel along with
\nnon-Israelites, are all Israel. Since all these believers regardless of
\nbackground are physical and since in order to be accepted and pleasing to the
\nFather all must be spiritually aware or regenerated by the Spirit, this single
\nnation is both and at the same time both physical and spiritual Israel. Since
\nthis is the case, there is no need for a separate entity claiming to be
\nspiritual Israel i.e. "the church", thus eliminating the competition
\nand the 2000-year-old battle royal, over which entity really is the true Israel.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nRacial
\nDistinctions<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nwhile claiming that there are no racial distinctions in the body of Yahshua,
\npractice their faith quite differently. Jews and "gentiles" are not
\nonly different people groups, but are identified as such. Terms like Jewish
\nbeliever or "gentile" believer are common terminology, thus
\nemphasizing the national and ethnic difference between brethren. Messianic
\nJudaism refuses to see returning Ephraimites as long lost brethren, who had been
\nmixed into the nations. This results in the establishment of Jewish synagogues
\nand "gentile churches."<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that when the members of the body realize that they have all been made
\ncitizens of the Commonwealth of the Israel of Yahuwah, that the racial origin of
\nthe individual loses its importance. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael sees all believers as
\nredeemed Israelites, who have been rescued from the nations and does not focus
\nin on the lesser titles of Jew, gentile, male and female, bond, or free. As
\nAbraham’s seed, this nation is a royal priesthood and a peculiar nation as
\nIsrael. Thus the focus becomes restoring the Kingdom to all Israel, rather than
\nbreaching the gap between two separate entities known fallaciously as physical
\nand spiritual Israel. This concept of physical and spiritual Israel, is a work
\nof the flesh, a figment of the religious imagination, found nowhere in
\nscripture. All brethren are fellow Israelites, regardless of their family
\ndescent!<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nTorah
\nObservance<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews this as totally optional for non-Jewish believers. Leaves Torah observance
\nto the individual conscience. Does not recognize the fact that the latter day
\n"gentiles", who are called the "melo hagoyim" or the
\nfullness of the nations, came from Ephraim’s physical seed. This rejection of
\nthe "melo hagoyim" as legitimate Israelites has kept up a wall around
\nTorah that traditional Jews have erected many years ago. A wall around Torah has
\nbeen erected to keep non-Jews away and observant Jews inside protected from
\nstraying away. Views Torah keeping amongst "gentile" believers, as
\nconfusion and legalism.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews most of the saved non-Jews as the promised seed of Ephraim, that in the
\nlatter days would make up the fullness or the majority of non Jews in the world.
\nTherefore when Yahshua rescues a non-Jewish believer from the nations, he or she
\nnot only has the privilege of Torah observance, but a divine mandate as well.
\nSince Messianic Nazarene Yisrael views all believers as New Covenant Israel (not replacing
\nfirst covenant Israel, but merely a renewed invigorated people of Israel), all
\nIsraelites are encouraged to join Jewish brethren in keeping Torah, thus
\nremoving the wall erected around it by traditional Judaism. Since Ephraimites
\ntrace their ancestry to Jacob\/Israel, through Joseph Jacob’s son, they rightly
\nbelieve that their forefathers were at the foot of Mt. Sinai receiving Torah,
\njust as much as the forefathers of Jewish Israel. Therefore all Israel’s
\nchildren enjoy the blessings of Torah obedience, making no distinction between
\nTorah observance for Jews and non-Jews.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nThe
\nOlive Tree<\/strong><\/span><\/u>\n<\/p>\n


\n<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\n<\/u>believes that the olive tree of Romans 11 is the Jew and the
\n"gentile", or the natural and wild branches. Uses the Christian church’s
\ndefinition to define the olive tree.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that the olive tree is the two houses of Israel, while the natural
\nOLIVE branches are Jewish and the wild OLIVE branches are non-Jewish Israelites
\nor Ephraimites. Uses Jeremiah the prophet’s definition to define the olive
\ntree of Israel.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nThe
\nRestoration of the Kingdom to Israel<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nbelieves that this event is past and that it took place either in the time of
\nKing Josiah, or at the time of the return of Jewish Israel from Babylon.
\nBelieves that the two sticks of Ezekial came together as prophesied at that
\ntime, therefore negating the need for a future restoration of both houses of
\nIsrael. Believes that the reunion has already taken place and that those who
\nclaim otherwise simply have missed the reunion.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that the restorations has definitely not been fulfilled due to several
\nkey issues. First the disciples asked Yahshua when the event would take place,
\n586 years after the reunion supposedly took place! Had the restoration been a
\npast event, the disciples would not have asked Messiah Yahshua the question in a
\nstill future setting. Thus it is clear that the New Covenant disciples of
\nYahshua, still looked forward to the reunification of both houses. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that according to Ezekial 37, the reunion will be highlighted by
\na full return to the land of Israel, not a partial one referenced by Messianic
\nJudaism! Messianic Nazarene Yisrael believes that when this full return takes place, that
\nthere will be sinless perfection with no idolatry found in either stick or
\neither house. Obviously, not only is the full nation not back in the land, both
\nhouses have massive perversions in their belief systems, such as Ephraim’s
\ncelebration of pagan holy days and Sunday Sabbath and Judah’s love of
\nBabylonian wisdom, writings and practices. According to the same Ezekial 37
\npassages, one King will rule over both houses. Unsaved Jewish Israel is still in
\nthe majority and still is stiff-necked and still refuses to let Yahshua, Yahuwah’s
\nblessed Son rule over their affairs. Therefore Messianic Nazarene Yisrael believes that
\nthe fullness of this scripturally promised reunion, has never fully come to
\npass.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nReplacement
\nTheology<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nloathes it and does everything in its power, to rid this doctrine of demons from
\ntheological circles. Yet tragically and ironically, it propagates it by their
\nmisunderstanding of the church as a distinct and separate spiritual Israelite
\nentity.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that the body of New Covenant Israel is both physical and spiritual,
\nthus eliminating the theological straw man built by religion called the church.
\nOnce one of the two competing brides is recognized as a demonic manmade straw
\nman, then we are left with one bride known as the Commonwealth of Israel, where
\nthere are no distinctions in race or nationality. Thus while loathing
\nreplacement theology as well, Messianic Nazarene Yisrael has been given the correct
\ntheological understanding and insight, to eliminate the theological straw man.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nShabbat
\nand Moadim<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism is
\ncommitted to 7th<\/sup> day Shabbat keeping, Rosh Chodesh (New Moons), as
\nwell as all the Feasts of Yahuwah.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael is
\nalso committed to celebrate the 7th<\/sup> day Shabbat, Rosh Chodesh (New
\nMoons), as well as the Feasts of Yahuwah. All those who do so are viewed as
\nIsraelites, not as saved "gentiles."<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nThe
\nTen Tribes<\/strong><\/span><\/u>\n<\/p>\n


\n<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nbelieves that the ten tribes ceased to be an identifiable nation and as
\nindividuals were swallowed up by identifiable Jewish Israel. Messianic Judaism
\nbelieves therefore, that the Jewish people today are the reunited, reconstituted
\nvisible nation of Israel, made up of a re-gathering of all 12 tribes. These 12
\ntribes today are known strictly and only as Jews, thus eliminating the need for
\na future and further re-gathering of the House of Israel.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nbelieves that the nation of Israel remains blind and that blindness is found in
\ntwo separate houses, as Yahshua Himself found when both houses stumbled over His
\nMessiahship. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael believes that scripture is clear that Ephraim’s
\n(10 tribes) punishment, was for them to be swallowed up and become one flesh
\nwith the pagan nations of the world, outside the land of Israel. Thus in order
\nto find them, Yahshua has been saving the gentile nations, looking for these
\nindividual lost sheep, who make up the nation of the House of Israel. To locate
\nthem you would have to preach the gospel to the whole wide world of non-Jewish
\nnations. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael does not believe that the scriptures ever promised that
\nthe 10 tribes would be swallowed by Jewish\/Israel, but rather would be scattered
\nand hidden in the gentile pagan nations, only to be rescued by Messiah, in the
\nlast days of this age.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nTabernacle
\nof David<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nbelieves that the Tabernacle of David is only the Jewish people. Therefore in
\norder to bring biblical reconciliation in these last days, efforts must be made
\nto reconcile the Jews and "the church", or to put it another way, to
\nbring "the church" back to her Jewish roots. Messianic Judaism is
\nactively engaged in restoring the broken relationship between these two separate
\nIsrael’s, or the two separate brides of Yahuwah.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene
\nYisrael believes that the Tabernacle Of David by historical and biblical
\ndefinition must resemble and be an exact replica of the people of Israel, over
\nwhich David ruled and over which David established his tabernacle. By definition
\nthen, Messianic Nazarene Yisrael is actively engaged in restoring the broken
\nrelationship between Israel’s two houses or two chosen families, that will lead
\nto the Kingdom being restored to Israel. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael believes
\nthat restoration amongst brethren is biblical and believes that restoring New
\nCovenant Israel to "the church" is both unscriptural and fictional, especially
\nin light of the so-called "church’s" commitment to antinomianism.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nOrdination
\nof Leaders<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism (MJAA-IAMCS),
\nwill only ordain a rabbi who is thought to be Jewish, as a Messianic Rabbi. The
\nUMJC-AMB, will however recognize and ordain a non Jew as a Messianic rabbi.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nordains and recognizes that a messianic rabbi can be produced from either House
\nof Israel. Therefore a non-Jewish man, can also be called to be a rabbi in a
\nmessianic congregation, since he is most likely still a physical Israelite, from
\nthe non-Jewish side of the Israelite family, or becomes an Israelite as a Ger.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nMembership<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism (MJAA),
\nwill only grant full membership with voting privileges to Messianic Jews. Non
\nJewish or "gentile" believers are invited to become associate members.
\nAssociate members are however allowed to tithe and to donate funds, just like
\nany full Jewish member. The MJAA denies this policy as racist, rather viewing it
\nas a protection of the Jewishness of the movement. The UMJC does allow all
\nbelievers into full membership.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews it membership as open and full to anyone who is blood washed. Messianic
\nNazarene Yisrael believes that associate memberships are discriminatory and heretical.
\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael’s position is that if one is good enough for Yahshua’s
\nassembly, they ought to be good enough to be full members in any organization
\nclaiming to represent Him.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nSacred
\nName<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews the pronunciation of YHVH as Yahuwah or Yahveh, as inconclusive and beyond
\nfinding out. Also believes that the common usage, or the mere pronunciation of
\nthe Name, is a blatant violation of the commandment not to use it in vain. They
\ntend to interpret the phrase "in vain", as meaning common everyday
\nusage. Messianic Judaism is offended by those who do use it within it’s
\ncircles and do everything possible to discourage the Sacred Name from being
\nused, preferring instead to use Hashem, which means "the Name".<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael’s
\ncongregations and ministries, tend to be more open to its use. Though
\npronunciations may vary from person to person, there is a general consensus that
\nsince Yahuwah is restoring all things in and about Israel, that it must also be
\nHis desire to restore His eternal redemptive, memorial covenant Name. Messianic
\nNazarene Yisrael believes in most part, that any attempt to restore all things spoken of
\nby Israel’s prophets to Israel’s people, without restoring the Father’s
\neternal memorial everlasting Name, would leave the movement short of its goals
\nand vision. Usage of the sacred Name is prevalent throughout Messianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nand those who do not use it, are not offended by those who do.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nCharismatic
\nSign Gifts<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nhas a mixture of those who do and those who do not believe in the sign gifts and
\nin their perpetuity. Attitudes and doctrines vary.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael has
\na mixture of those who do and those who do not believe in the sign gifts and in
\ntheir perpetuity. Attitudes and doctrines vary.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nConversions<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic
\nJudaism believes that those who are not Jews in order to join Israel must
\nconvert. This process takes on various means and modes. This practice at its
\ncore is due to Messianic Judaism’s rejection of the historical reality of
\nnon-Jewish Israelites being redeemed by Yahshua’s blood. They fallaciously
\nbelieve that the Jewish people today are all of the Israelites that exist today,
\ntherefore one must become a Jew through conversion, to become an Israelite if
\none was not born Jewish. There has been much debate and controversy as to what
\nconversion standards should be accepted, ranging from Messianic Beit Din, to the
\nopinion that traditional Orthodox Jewish standards are in order. This
\nunderstanding results from the misunderstanding regarding the survival and
\npreservation of the other House of Israel as and among the latter day
\n"gentiles."<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic
\nNazarene Yisrael views all conversions with skepticism and disdain. To Messianic
\nNazarene Yisraelites, all believers became physical-Spirit filled Israelites, regardless
\nof racial origin. Thus no conversion is necessary, since an Israelite need not
\nbe adopted into the nation of Israel, that according to scripture, he or she
\nalready belongs to either by birth or by grafting. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael believes
\nthat Yahshua allowed us all to become Israel, so as to avoid the very manmade
\ndecisions and rulings handed down by man made and man generated committees, as
\nto who is and who is not a Jew. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael views the entire conversion
\nprocess of Ephraimites and non-Israelites to Messianic Judaism as a sad
\nscenario, played out by those who do not realize that Israel has two chosen
\nfamilies. As such no conversion is necessary, since a conversion merely
\ntransfers a believer from one side of the family, to another, not from one faith
\nto another. Furthermore Messianic Nazarene Yisrael views conversions as a heretical
\npractice, designed to cheapen Yahuwah’s grace who accepts an individual as they
\nare, where they are and places them into Israel’s Commonwealth Himself.
\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael therefore views conversions as dangerous and as a direct attack
\nagainst divine sovereignty.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nCircumcision
\nor Brit Milah<\/strong><\/span><\/u>\n<\/p>\n


\n<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nabides by differing versions of Acts 15 and the Jerusalem Council. By and large
\nnon-Jews are taught that they need not be circumcised unless they convert to
\nMessianic Judaism through a man appointed Bet Din. "Gentiles" are
\ntaught that they are in most cases already circumcised by the hospital and even
\nif they are not they need not be.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\npermits those who are not circumcised in the flesh to participate in the
\nPassover Seder.  Torah teaches in Exodus 12:48 that the uncircumcised are
\nnot permitted to participate in Passover.<\/span><\/strong>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews all members of the Olive Tree as Born Again Israelites. Therefore, 
\nall believing parents should circumcise their sons on the 8th day following
\nbirth, in accord with the covenant of Abraham as given in Genesis 17. Since
\nTorah commands the 8th day circumcision, it is up to the believing parents to
\noversee a Biblical Brit Milah for an infant son.  The parents are
\naccountable to Yahuwah to properly perform this upon their son on the 8th day.<\/span><\/strong>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\ndoes not accept hospital circumcision at birth as being a legitimate fulfillment
\nof the requirement for parents to perform the Brit Milah on Messianic Nazarene Yisraelite
\nsons.  All Messianic Nazarene Yisraelite families that produce a newborn son, should
\nhave the Brit Milah performed on the 8th day in accord with the command of Torah
\nin Genesis 17.  However, we do recognize that circumcision among the non
\nJewish nations, has become commonplace in the 20th century.  We feel this
\nhas been the Guidance of Ruach Hakodesh in preparing the remnant from the
\nfullness of the nations (Ephraim), to recognize their position in Torah as
\ndescendants of Israel.  This being the case, we give gospel grace to those
\nmales who were already circumcised in the hospital and do not require a
\nrecircumcision or a Hatafas Dahm (drawing of blood from the spot of past
\nhospital circumcision on adults) ceremony upon them.<\/span><\/strong>\n<\/p>\n

\nAs
\nfor uncircumcised men who have come into a realization of their Israelite
\nheritage through the revelation of the Ruach Hakodesh, it would be Scriptural
\nfor an adult male to have himself circumcised on the 8th day, following the
\nrevelation of his heritage. This would apply to any believer who, though saved,
\nhad not been cognizant of Israelite blood or their place in Israel's Two Houses.
\nWe have the example of Timothy who was a descendant of the Tribe of Judah on his
\nmother's side who had himself circumcised later in life.  An entire
\ngeneration of Israel -- those born in the wilderness -- remained uncircumcised
\nuntil later in life.  But when it was time to enter into the Promised Land,
\nthey all became circumcised (Joshua 5:2-8). The Messianic Nazarene Yisrael Movement is now
\nmoving into our spiritual Promised Land, so it is now time for all our adult men
\nto be in proper circumcision, so as to partake of the Passover (Master's) Supper.<\/span><\/strong>
\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael does
\nnot believe that the act of circumcision has any effect upon the process of
\nsalvation.  Circumcision is a requirement for those descended from Abraham,
\nbut lack of circumcision does not keep one from being saved.  Messianic
\nNazarene Yisrael views the warnings and forbidding of Rav Shaul (Paul) against
\ncircumcision, not as the forbidding of the token of the Abrahamic Covenant, but
\nrather as a forbidding for Ephraimites and non-Israelites to become part of
\n"the circumcision", or to convert or become Jews. Thus the many verses
\nforbidding circumcision (Galatians), are a warning not to equate conversion to
\nJudaism (becoming Jewish or joining the circumcision), as having any bearing on
\nSalvation. All male offspring of believing parents must be circumcised as
\nAbraham's seed, and all male adults should seriously consider Brit Milah for the
\n8th day after their recognition of their true Israelite heritage.  <\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n <\/span>Bar
\n& Bat Mitzvah<\/strong><\/span><\/u>\n<\/p>\n


\n<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nviews these practices as mitzvoth and holds them equal to the scriptural
\ncommands. Views these observances as binding on all Jews and converts.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews these practices as traditional additions to Judaism and as strictly
\noptional and not binding on Israelites in any way.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nHalachah
\n(The Way to Walk)<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nrespects traditional rabbinical halachah and often times chooses to submit to
\nit. Obedience to traditional rabbinical halacha varies from congregation to
\ncongregation. As a whole Messianic Judaism seeks to become the recognized and
\nestablished fourth major branch of Judaism after Orthodox, Conservative and
\nReform. This can only be done by Messianic Jewish leadership’s acceptance, of
\na large portion of traditional rabbinical halachic teachings and rulings.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nviews traditional rabbinical halachah as dangerous in many instances and views
\nYahshua alone as "The Way", therefore He alone is halachah. Messianic
\nNazarene Yisrael views traditional rabbinical rulings with interest, to be used for wisdom
\nand insight but not for practical doctrine and living.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nKashrut-Kosher
\nKeeping<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism in
\ngeneral follows all of biblical kashrut such as the avoidance of pig and
\nshellfish. Some segments follow the rabbinical halacha of the separation of milk
\nand dairy. This segment uses different pots and pans for meat and dairy
\nproducts, never mixing the two. This is a minority segment.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael in
\ngeneral follows all of biblical kashrut such as the avoidance of pigs and
\nshellfish. Most segments do not follow the halachic laws of separation between
\nmilk and dairy products and different pots and pans, though a few do.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nReverse
\nReplacement Theology<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\nbelieves that the "gentile" believer, is a type of the House of Israel
\n(10) tribes and not the redeemed physical remnant of the ten tribes itself.
\nProliferates the fallacious and dangerous understanding of the so-called
\n"church", as the "Ephraim of the Spirit", or "spiritual
\nEphraim", thus engaging in reverse replacement theology. Reverse
\nreplacement theology, is substituting a man made spiritual entity called
\n"the church", for the re-gathered, rescued, redeemed remnant of the
\nphysical House Of Israel (Ephraim). Thus while rightly loathing "the church’s"
\nreplacement theological practices of trying to use the "church" to
\nreplace the Jews as the "New Israel", most of Messianic Judaism seems
\nto have no problems with using the same "church", to replace the
\nphysical House of Joseph. The House of Joseph is just as biologically Semitic,
\nas are the Jewish people and thus sadly and tragically Messianic Judaism in
\ngreat ignorance, often practices anti-Semitism through reverse replacement
\ntheology.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\ndoes not engage in any kind of replacement theology, including steering clear of
\nreverse replacement theology.  By proclaiming that two physical Houses of
\nIsrael are being restored through the Messiah Yahshua, neither house is ignored,
\nor replaced by one another, nor by an outside manmade third party entity called
\n"the church". The "church", is not used to replace either
\nhouse in Yahuwah’s eternal plans and thus all three parties that make up New
\nCovenant Israel thrive, survive and dwell together as brethren in greater
\nIsrael. Judah, Ephraim and Gerim (strangers), all live in unity as Spirit filled
\nphysical beings, united by Yahshua’s cords of love, in a single entity known
\nas His body, the ekklesia, or the Commonwealth of Israel. All forms of
\nreplacement theology are utterly rejected as anti-Semitic, including reverse
\nreplacement theology, as is often practiced in other forms of Messianism.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nYahshua’s
\nDeity<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\n(the modern movement), was established upon a strong foundation, by men who held
\nfast to the absolute deity of Messiah Yahshua. The leadership was and remains
\none hundred percent committed to teaching His deity. Yet recent years have found
\nwidespread apostasy in it ranks, as literally scores of Messianic Jewish
\nadherents, as well as numerous rabbis, have become apostate by denying this
\ncardinal truth upon which all major Messianic Jewish organizations were
\noriginally established. As one major leader recently put it "it (this
\nheresy) is destroying the movement."<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\nrequires that any congregation or Messianic Nazarene Yisraelite leader, must make a full
\nand compete confession of Yahshua’s deity, prior to acceptance and recognition
\nin Messianic Nazarene Yisrael. Several leaders and ministries have been refused
\nmembership, due to their unscriptural position regarding Yahshua’s deity.
\nYahshua’s deity is a main bedrock of the gospel, which Messianic Nazarene Yisrael cannot
\ncompromise. Messianic Nazarene Yisrael seeks to weed out those holding this view, before
\ninfiltration of this hideous doctrine into its ranks.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\nWomen
\nIn Ministry<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

<\/u><\/p>\n

\nMessianic Judaism
\ndoes not actively promote or encourage women to the five-fold ministry.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\nMessianic Nazarene Yisrael
\ndoes encourage and actively allow women to function as five fold ministers.<\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n \n<\/p>\n

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