After reading from an article from a site (pasted below), I began to recall the first time I've heard of similar arguments.<\/p>\n
When I finished reading this article by the second person, I had to put my afterthought in writing.<\/p>\n
The first article is very clear and direct on the author's point. But the second article seems to be the work of a loser trying to gain a hold of the trophy.<\/p>\n
I'll put my thoughts on this in simplicity.<\/p>\n
First of all, I would say many knew that evil is bad. The devil is bad. We don't like to do evil things.<\/p>\n
Second of all, many knew that Satan is evil, the devil.<\/p>\n
Now, the question is, what really is evil? Jesus said in Matthew 7:24, ...depart from me, ye that work iniquity. What evil is this iniquity?<\/p>\n
Is the term "evil\/iniquity" only limited to murder, stealing, lying, cheating?<\/p>\n
If so, then some saints need not God's salvation which is in Christ Jesus only.<\/p>\n
To say that Satan is an enemy of men is a bit childish.<\/p>\n
Satan is the enemy of God. He's the one who would use all kinds of ways to divert people from God by manipulating God's Word, logos.<\/p>\n
God's righteousness is not the same as a man's righteousness. Therefore in order to achieve God's standard which is the only way to please God as man's righteousness has been COMPLETELY corrupted since the fall of Adam and Eve, only God's revealed truth through His Word which is in the Bible can we truly achieve that.<\/p>\n
Hence, to make it very clear and simple "Saying that you are doing the right thing is never the right thing unless God told you so either by words or God-planned blessings hidden around you".<\/p>\n
If one can't see superman or Nietzsche's Overman as an anti-christ figure, one has failed to understand what I've just said.<\/p>\n
Conclusion, how did the second article's author fail?<\/p>\n
By assuming that doctrine of Christianity can be viewed and understood from a non-believer's point of view.<\/p>\n
If you do not believe that God exist, why would you want to tell others what you think God is like? Only a half-baked brain would do something like that.<\/p>\n
"I'm neither atheist nor theist", then you are the absolute, you are god, yet worshipping skepticism, I have nothing more to say to a false hypocritical god.<\/p>\n
Hollywood has produced a lot of movies that are anti-christ. And many of them have messianic theme. So if you watch them, make sure you can tell the differences apart so that you may glorify God when you explain to others who have watched similar shows.<\/p>\n
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Date: December 24, 2003<\/i><\/p>\n
\nHello, everyone! Neal Bailey, here. Welcome to an exploratory article
\nin to the nature of the Man of Steel, both in etymology and in intent.
\nIn other words, we examine what the nature of Superman is, from its
\nhistorical roots to its present meanings.<\/p>\n
\nThrough the Superman Homepage I received an email from a man who wants
\nto be called Thyroros, postulating some rather hard to take-in ideas...
\nmy first reaction, I'll have to admit, was "What the heck?", but after
\na little bit of reading, the guy had me quite pulled in. Great
\nresearch, good words, and a persuasive style. It was the topic of the
\narticle that had me boggled... <\/p>\n
It postulated the idea that Superman was an allegory for the Anti-Christ.<\/p>\n
\nNow, now, now, before you start sending me hate mail, realize that at
\nno point have I said that Superman is the Anti-Christ... far from it,
\nin my opinion. But having read the article, and having found it quite
\nentertaining and more than a little informed, I contacted Steve, the
\nwebmaster, and asked if I could make this into a bit of an article for
\nyou all...<\/p>\n
He agreed.<\/p>\n
\nSteve Younis is a good man, people. He doesn't want politics, religion,
\nor anything controversial on this site, and I applaud that. He wants
\nonly Superman, which makes sense. But this article skirted both fields,
\nreligion, politics, AND an angle on the Man of Steel. So here's a
\ncautioning paragraph that I expect you to read before continuing:<\/p>\n
You, right now, can hit the exit That said, enough of a prelude, and into the articles at hand:<\/p>\n \nFirst, we have the article that Thyroros sent me, about the nature of <\/p>\n Begin the words of Thyroros:<\/span><\/p>\n I know you're gonna hate me for this one, so let's just get started shall we?<\/p>\n The Superman Mythos<\/b><\/p>\n by Thyroros<\/a><\/p>\n \nThe term superman first entered into modern usage through the writings \nAs nonsensical or offensive as some people might think this to be, the \nBefore delving into some of the more specific correlations, and often \nObjections may arise as angels are said to dwell in heaven while aliens \nAs most of us know, Kal-El's homeworld, Krypton, was completely \nEzekiel 28:15-17 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that \nSo Satan may have ruled a physical civilization spanning Mars, Astara, \nThe aforementioned information thus allows us to have a much clearer \nI. Jor-El is Satan. II. The father who exiled Jor-El\/Satan to earth is \nAs additional support for this concept, let us explore the meanings of Clark - Old English - Clergyman or learned man (4)<\/p>\n \nKent - Welsh - Bright white, white or bright (5). Another interesting \nKal-El - Can be translated as destruction or completion of God in \nJor-El - J is actually pronounced Y (the letter Yod) in Hebrew. Krypton\/Kryptonite - From the Greek words krypto - To hide; kryptos - hidden unseen, secret; krypte - hidden place (9)<\/p>\n \nLex - Latin for law (Just in case 'Lex' is actually short for Luthor (Luther) - Teutonic- famous warrior\/ famous in war<\/p>\n Old German - Warring ones<\/p>\n German - warrior\/famous people?. Martin Luther was a Catholic monk and theologian turned Protestant reformer (1483-1546). (11)<\/p>\n \n*If one is inclined to doubt that Kal-El and Jor-El may actually be \nThere are just a few more items of interest which may possibly be \nSo what does all of this mean? The reader, of course, is free to draw - Thyroros, December 2, 2003, Redlands, CA.<\/p>\n Endnotes:<\/p>\n 1. See Friedrich Nietzsche's Biography.com<\/a> End the words of Thyroros.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Neal Bailey's Counterpoint:<\/span><\/p>\n Superman is a Republican Presidential Candidate<\/b><\/p>\n by Neal Bailey<\/a>.<\/p>\n \nWhen I first read this, I was intrigued by the sheer amount of In this, I have a great deal of respect for Thyroros, as a writer, he did a good job.<\/p>\n \nAs the defence for the Superman Homepage, I have to point out my \nTo do this, we have to establish Thyroros' basic tenets and examine That said, my basic understanding of the above article is are the following tenets:<\/p>\n \nI: Angels are corollary to aliens, as they both come from beyond our \nII: Satan's war against the armies of Heaven took place in a region of \nIII: Jerry Seigel and Joe Shuster created Superman as a Satanic A: Kal-El and Jor-El can be interpreted to mean "Totality of God" and "Fear of God", respectively.<\/p>\n B: Kryptonite means a hidden place.<\/p>\n C: Lex means leader of men.<\/p>\n D: Luther was the leader of a church reform movement.<\/p>\n \nIV: Superman is an allegory for Satan, and Lex Luthor is an allegory Now that we have this plain and laid out, we can examine each tenet respectively for its individual merit... <\/p>\n I: Angels are corollary to aliens, because of their similarity to our understanding of Heaven and Space.<\/p>\n \nThis I cannot dispute. There are aesthetic differences, and there are II: The War in Heaven took place around the asteroid belt.<\/p>\n \nThis I cannot dispute either. But then, it is pure theory based in \nThe previous two points are interesting, very interesting, but lack a III: Siegel and Shuster created Superman as a form of Satanic allegory.<\/p>\n \nThyroros' evidence here is again, interesting, but perhaps Allow me to elaborate:<\/p>\n \nSuperman, like Satan, is a powerful being, often defiant of those in \nMetropolis is a beautiful, euphoric place before Superman arrives, and \nSometimes, as in apocalyptic revelation, the moon turns red as blood, \nAnd, of note, Superman's religion is never really elaborated upon, much I've dug a pretty good hole for myself here, haven't I, strengthening Thyroros' evidence and setting myself up to look foolish?<\/p>\n \nWell, yes, perhaps. But through aforementioned corollary, which falls \nAnd hey, I don't knock that. I just live MY life by logic, you see? \nSuperman tends to be a little pro-life. When someone falls off a \nSuperman's a little more gung-ho about the careful and co-ordinated \nYou know what else? Superman, though he doesn't really need them, \nSuperman prefers to let individual governments control their own Thanks to Luthor, he also buys into smaller government.<\/p>\n Thanks to Our Worlds At War, he buys into a strong military.<\/p>\n \nAnd when someone commits an act of terror... that boy is ALL OVER IT. I \nWhat do all of these things have in common? Pro-life, anti-gun control, \nWell, right now, (and I'm not condemning or condoning these beliefs \nGiven that Superman has a leadership role in the JLA, and given that he \nThat said, don't expect him to run, for obvious reasons... and THIS is The simple reasons?<\/p>\n Superman has never consciously thirsted for power and destruction, as the Anti-Christ almost universally does.<\/p>\n The Rapture did not occur in DC comics, a key event announcing the coming of the Anti-Christ.<\/p>\n \nThe Jews are hardly even mentioned in the pages of Superman, save in \nPerhaps most importantly, Superman has never held or moved towards \nAlthough I have to say... it is VERY suspect that he controls an outlet Hmmm... <\/p>\n \nEven beyond all this, however, is the potent truth of the matter. All \nIn fact, God-beings as opposed to common heroes is a commonly debated There's a whole Master's thesis there, if you want it. I don't. I like enjoying the comic for what it is, as well. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n Here's the lightning round:<\/p>\n Jesus made water into wine. Superman made coal into diamonds.<\/p>\n \nJesus is killed by brainless monsters for no real reason save to \nJesus has twelve disciples who listen to his leadership and follow him \nJesus rose from the dead after three days and spoke to people about how \nJesus was tempted with power by Satan in the desert. Superman was Jesus loves everyone. Superman loves everyone, except Zod. Everyone has a money lenders moment.<\/p>\n Jesus had God's powers. Superman has God-like powers.<\/p>\n God sent his only son to Earth. Jor-El sent his only son to Earth.<\/p>\n \nThat's... that's about all I can come up with. But the point? Superman \nAll of that said, I leave the conclusions to you. Far be it for me to And if we have this much fun looking into something that's usually so general, imagine where we can go from here?<\/p>\n I leave that to you. At least, until my next article.<\/p>\n Yours, \nPS... in the process of researching this (though admittedly I used no Hollywood Jesus<\/a>, shows a compelling argument for the first movie's sake, not without humor, that Superman: The Movie<\/i>, shows Superman as Jesus.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" After reading from an article from a site (pasted below), I began to recall the first time I've heard of similar arguments. When I finished reading this article by the second person, I had to put my afterthought in writing. … Continue reading
\nbutton on this window and leave this article. If you are easily
\noffended, I encourage you to. What follows is at least controversial,
\nif not anger provoking if you are less into inquiry than say, someone
\nlike me, and don't love hearing alternate theories when backed up by
\nevidence. This article is brought to you by me and Thyroros, and any
\ndiscussion you have, any objections, and death threats, whatever, they
\nshould go towards me. This article was my idea, and I stand by it as
\nintellectual exploration.<\/span><\/p>\n
\nSuperman and where he perhaps fits into the general scheme of allegory.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n
\n
\nof Friedrich Nietzsche. This late nineteenth-century German philosopher
\nwas vehemently anti-Christian and never tired of condemning the faith
\nas weak, absurd, even detrimental to human development. While Hitler
\nadmired him, and the Nazis are said to have made use of some of his
\nideas, Nietzsche did not actually share their racist and anti-Semitic
\nviews. (1) Thus it is not entirely incongruous that two young Jewish
\nmen from Cleveland, Ohio would have adopted the term for their own use.
\nWhile many assume Superman is merely a work of science fiction, I do
\nnot believe this to be the case. I too grew up amid all the movies (the
\nfirst film starring Christopher Reeve came out the year after I was
\nborn), cartoons, and TV shows, believing the Man of Steel to be nothing
\nmore than a slightly stale and out-dated comic book hero. However,
\nafter watching various episodes of Smallville, a very different
\ninterpretation of the American icon began to impress itself upon me.<\/p>\n
\ntale of Superman represents an allegory of another well-known
\nsupernatural, extra-terrestrial being: Satan.<\/p>\n
\nglaring similarities, between these two legendary immortals, there is
\nan important point which needs to be made regarding the nature of
\nangels. Angels are extra-dimensional and other-worldly travellers who
\nmake infrequent appearances throughout the Bible and other related
\ntexts. They usually do not have wings, and they almost always appear
\njust like men. The Seraphim and Cherubim are the only two celestial
\norders consistently described in the Bible which bear wings. While most
\nangeaologies consider both orders to be angels, the highest orders in
\nfact, neither the Old nor New Testaments refer to them as such. But
\nthis is really just a semantic argument that needn't be fully addressed
\nhere. Anyway, the English word angel is derived from the Greek angelos
\nwhich simply means messenger, as does the Hebrew mal'ach, which is used
\nin the Torah, the prophets, and other Hebrew writings. (2) These terms
\ncan be used to indicate human or divine beings. Many times the humans
\nwith whom angels communicate are not even aware of it until the
\nsupernatural visitors perform some act obviously beyond the capability
\nof mere mortals. After closely examining all the Biblical references, I
\nwas forced to conclude that there is no overwhelming distinction
\nbetween angels and what modern mythology refers to as aliens. Both are
\nextra-terrestrial, and both seem to exhibit powers and\/or technology
\nbeyond what might traditionally be considered human. Now, Satan, if
\nstandard Christian doctrine is correct, is a fallen angel, while
\nKal-El, or Superman, is a stranded, immigrant alien.<\/p>\n
\ninhabit the supposedly innumerable worlds located in the vast reaches
\nof space. But again, the only difference between the concepts of heaven
\nand space lie in the minds of people who refuse to acknowledge the
\nsimple facts. Both exist above and outside the earth, and both are
\nimpossible to visit for the majority of living human beings on this
\nplanet. Even now, after thirty-some years of manned space-flight, it
\nstill requires the pinnacle of human technology, and the availability
\nof monumental resources, to even consider such undertakings. We haven't
\nbeen to the moon in over thirty years according to official sources.
\nMoreover, space remains extremely dangerous. It is a notoriously
\nhostile environment; the slightest mistake or malfunction can bring
\nabout instantaneous death for even the most well-trained astronaut. So,
\nheavenly realms and intergalactic space, not that different, right?
\nOkay then, hopefully that matter is settled, and we can move on to
\nKrypton.<\/p>\n
\nobliterated due to a nuclear reaction at its core, which resulted in
\nthe infant Kryptonian's emergency flight to earth. Now, some theorize
\nthat the asteroid belt in our solar system was created when a large,
\nterrestrial planet located between Mars and Jupiter (often referred to
\nas Astera\/Astara) exploded some time in the past. (3) It's possible
\nthat this same cataclysm was also responsible for the destruction of
\nthe Red Planet's atmosphere and its civilization. Satan may also be
\nconnected with Mars and Astera, depending on one's interpretation of
\ncertain Old Testament books such as Ezekiel. Ezekiel states in chapter
\n28, verse 14 that the former anointed cherub, Satan, "walked up and
\ndown in the midst of the stones of fire". It's not a very far stretch
\nof the imagination to connect "the stones of fire" with planets. Please
\nexamine the following verses for more details:<\/p>\n
\nthou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude
\nof thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence,
\nand thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the
\nmountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the
\nmidst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of
\nthy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness:
\nI will cast thee to the ground (Hebrew 'eretz is also often translated
\nas land or earth), I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold
\nthee.<\/p>\n
\nand perhaps several moons as well. But he rebelled against his God and
\nKing, and was cast to the earth along with a third of the Heavenly Host
\n(See Revelation 12:4).<\/p>\n
\nunderstanding of the scenario presented in Smallville 1961. While I
\ndon't disagree with Chloe about the possibility of genetic memory being
\nstored in the DNA, I don't accept that this was necessarily true in
\nClark's case. I believe it to be more likely that Jor-El and Kal-El are
\none person, not father and son. Here's how it works:<\/p>\n
\nactually the Father, as in Yahweh, the God of the Bible. III.
\nJor-El\/Satan returns to space to continue the "War in Heaven" (See
\nRevelation 12:7).. IV. In order to eventually assume the role of
\nAnti-Christ, Satan devises a seemingly foolproof plan. Just as
\nYahweh\/God limited himself in power when He assumed the form of
\nJesus\/the Christ, Satan formulates a a similar device. He clones
\nhimself and denies this clone access to certain segments of his memory
\nand powers. This way he will more easily deceive humans into believing
\nthat he is a righteous savior rather than evil incarnate. But he makes
\nmessages and recordings beforehand which will remind him of certain
\nthings at planned intervals. This will enable him to develop in the
\nmost ideal way in order to fit the role of the Christ more perfectly.
\nV. Satan and his angels are defeated in the heavenly realms, Mars and
\nAstera\/Krypton is destroyed as a result. Satan transfers his
\nconsciousness\/spirit from Jor-El to the infant clone, Kal-El and
\nrockets off toward earth.<\/p>\n
\nthe principal character's names belonging to the Superman mythos:<\/p>\n
\npossible derivation of this name is from the Biblical Kenites (first
\nmentioned in Genesis 15:19 as enemies of Israel), who may have been
\ndescended from Cain (for in Hebrew Cain is more accurately
\ntransliterated as Qayin, and Kenites as Qayini. Adding an "i" to the
\nend of a name in Hebrew indicates the people or descendants of that
\npersonage. Israel\/Israeli, Qayin\/Qayini. See the pattern?) (6)<\/p>\n
\nHebrew (or possibly 'all that is God\/totality of God'). (7) El is the
\nHebrew word for God.*<\/p>\n
\nPossible translations are: Yare'-el - fear of God, Yarah-El - God
\nteaches, taught of God, Yeru-El - God is a foundation, Yeri-El -
\nfounded of God; God will see. (8)<\/p>\n
\nAlexander, Alexander is Greek for leader of men, alex (leader) + ander
\n(men).10<\/p>\n
\nHebrew names, allow me to you remind you that both Jerry Siegel and Joe
\nShuster, the original creators of Superman, were Jewish. Maybe I'm
\nwrong, but I think it's highly unlikely they would give their
\ncharacters Hebrew-sounding names by pure chance. (12)<\/p>\n
\nconnections between Kal-El and the Red Dragon\/Satan. Since Superman
\nderives his powers from the sun, that would make him a kind of 'sun
\ngod'. Satan has sometimes been compared with the sun gods of ancient
\nmythology such as the Egyptian Ra, the Greek\/Roman Apollo and the
\nPersian Mithra. The 'infinity serpent' burned onto Clark's chest in the
\nsecond season finale of Smallville is another fascinating correlation,
\nas Satan is often recognized as being or controlling the serpent in the
\nGarden of Eden (Genesis chapter 3), and one of his titles in Revelation
\n(12:9) is that "that old serpent". Finally, it would be quite simple to
\ndraw a pentagram inside the five-pointed shield emblazoned on
\nSuperman's costume. Pentagrams are used in ceremonial magic and
\nSatanism the world over. Not that such a detail is conclusive, but I
\njust thought I'd include it for the sake of being thorough.<\/p>\n
\nhis or her own conclusions But here's what I believe; Superman comics,
\nmovies, and TV shows (and everything else in between) are Satanic
\nPropaganda. Superman is the Anti-Christ\/Satan and Lex Luthor,
\nrepresenting Christianity, is desperately trying to defend the earth
\nagainst him. As the story is told from Satan's perspective, Lex is
\nfalsely demonized and portrayed as an insane criminal. In the words of
\nFriedrich Nietzsche from Thus Spake Zarathustra, "God is dead. I teach
\nyou the superman." This is the lie that the father of lies is eager for
\nus all to swallow down between mouthfuls of French fries and
\njelly-filled breakfast pastries.<\/p>\n
\n2. Information gathered by using the King James Bible (1611 Authorized
\nVersion) and The Strongest Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the
\nBible. James Strong, L.L.D., S.T.D. Fully Revised and Corrected by John
\nR. Kohlenberger III and James A. Swanson. Grand Rapids Michigan.
\nZondervan. 2001
\n3. Click here<\/a> for the standard line on the Asteroid Belt formation. Go here<\/a> for more information on the possible link between Mars, Astara, and Satan, maybe even Venus?
\n4. Name definition for Clark<\/a> (Any standard name\/baby-name book should provide this information.)
\n5. Name meanings<\/a> & Name origins<\/a> (Any standard name\/baby-name book should provide this information.)
\n6. See footnote 2. Most Biblical scholars don't make the connection
\nbetween Cain and the Kenites. This is probably due to the long-held
\nview that the Flood of Noah\/The Great Deluge (as related in Genesis
\nchapters 6-8) was worldwide and no one survived except Noah and his
\nfamily. However, a gr owing number dispute that the Flood was regional
\nrather than global (which is possible based on certain interpretations
\nof the passages in Genesis), and therefore, Cain's progeny could have
\nsurvived.
\n7. From the Strong's Concordance Hebrew Dictionary (contained within the same volume), Reference numbers 3605-3607, 3615-3617
\n8. From the Strong's Concordance Hebrew Dictionary (contained within
\nthe same volume), Reference numbers 3372, 3384, 3385, 3400.
\nIncidentally, yerah is the Hebrew word for moon, ref. # 3391.
\n9. From the Strong's Concordance Greek Dictionary (contained within the
\nsame volume), Reference numbers 2926-2928 10. (Any competent
\nLatin-English and Greek-English dictionaries can be used to find these
\ndefinitions. Also standard name\/baby-name book should provide this
\ninformation.) Here's a couple of websites just in case you want them. For Alexander<\/a>. For Lex<\/a> & another for Lex<\/a>. Just for fun, here's website containing excerpts of Plutarch's Alexander the Great (who was not a good guy) bio<\/a>.
\n11. "Luthor\/Luther" name meaning<\/a>.
\n12. "Jews are the true comic book heroes<\/a>", article from the Chicago Sun Times and here's a History of Superman article from Superman.com.ar<\/a> in case your interested.<\/p>\n
\n
\ninformation presented here, and the thought put into it. It impressed
\nme. The work is well done, as well, with sources, strong words, and a
\npersuasive style.<\/p>\n
\nversion of the other side of the argument. I want to try and do that
\nlogically, using things learned in years of study of philosophy,
\nincluding writing books, personal study, and a long and unending quest
\nfor God.<\/p>\n
\nthem. For the sake of argument, his article assumes God, so I will
\nassume God as well. My theism or non-theism aside (and that's a WHOLE
\nother article, folks), I will give this argument the benefit of deistic
\ndoubt.<\/p>\n
\nunderstanding of the terrestrial... I. E. Space, some definable Heaven
\nwe can't see in our own terran view, or even the ever-unknown "beyond".<\/p>\n
\nHeaven located somewhere near what is now the asteroid belt.<\/p>\n
\nallegory, based in the following pieces of evidence, most strongly:<\/p>\n
\nfor Christianity, fighting against the forces of Satan to save the
\nEarth.<\/p>\n
\nmany obvious differences in the realities of their existence based in
\nlogic, but they ARE corollary. The problem? Corollary is not a logical
\nmeans of causation, even given God. For instance, logically speaking,
\nif you want to, you can create a very obvious and real corollary
\nbetween a dog and a cat. Both are mammals and have four legs, after
\nall, and therefore must be similar. They are. That doesn't make them
\nthe same. Corollary is a common tool of equivocation. But it bears
\nnoticing that sometimes, in some instances, corollary can bring about
\nlogical conclusion, for instance, seeing a Doberman and then a Labrador
\nand assuming that they were both dogs... assuming that they were the
\nsame breed, or even held the same temperament, however, may be folly.<\/p>\n
\netymology of a word, and a society's reverence for the stars. We see
\ncommon recurrences of many themes in literature and religious texts...
\nfloods, fires, plagues, and wars. And many occurred in the stars. This
\nmakes they possible, but not necessarily real.<\/p>\n
\ndegree of plausibility based in their corollary and their basis in
\ntheory rather than fact. Nonetheless, the third tenet is perhaps the
\nmost defensible:<\/p>\n
\ninconclusive. Maybe Luthor does mean a leader of men. And maybe Jor-El
\nis representative of a fear of God... I myself might fear a God that
\ndestroyed my home planet, even if I were at war with him... but still,
\nI want to take his position in order to show how while the idea has
\nmerit, and is certainly interesting, it makes as much sense to assume
\nSuperman Satan to me as to assume him the Republican candidate for the
\npresidency.<\/p>\n
\ncontrol with regards to matters of authority. He regularly fights
\nagainst the most authoritative figure in the world, President Luthor, a
\nman whose dictums are obeyed unless one wants to experience severe
\nconsequences, like with the God of Christianity.<\/p>\n
\nafter he comes, chaos ensues, much like the apocalypse. Villains and
\nmurderers crowd to the city to have a shot at usurping power from the
\nSuperman Satan, and as prophesied in the Bible, Superman Satan has the
\nsway and belief of almost all of the people in the world.<\/p>\n
\npeople disappear suddenly, taken by aliens beyond the asteroid belt,
\nonly to be brought back by Superman or his comrades at arms.<\/p>\n
\nlike the Anti-Christ, opting instead for an Agnostic front to please
\nthe will of the people and maintain power.<\/p>\n
\nto logical examination save by those with utmost faith of conviction
\nbased in personal experience.<\/p>\n
\nNothing wrong with Thyroros at all, that's not what I'm saying. I'm
\njust saying, to logical examination, well... <\/p>\n
\nbridge, Superman will fly down there, save them, and bring them back to
\nthe top of the bridge. Maybe even fry the guy who tossed them off with
\nhis heat vision. And what does that tell us?<\/p>\n
\napplication of violence to achieve an end than other parts of society.<\/p>\n
\nadvocates the use of guns. He doesn't ever say anything against it, he
\ndoesn't advocate regulation, and once, when he was low on power, back
\nafter he came back from the dead, he armed himself with some HUGE alien
\nweaponry and said, I quote, A boy-scout is always prepared.<\/p>\n
\ndecisions rather than having a dictator or an overarching Federalism
\nmake the decisions for the people. That's why he fights Darkseid,
\nLuthor, and anyone who tries to make everyone in his fair city do what
\nthe rest of the world is doing when the world is being taken over.<\/p>\n
\nmean, look at Action 775 and what he did to Manchester Black.<\/p>\n
\nletting a government maintain its sovereignty, small government, strong
\nmilitary, strong on attacking terrorists unilaterally?<\/p>\n
\nEITHER way, understand that) those are the stereotypical associations
\nbrought to bear on the Republican Party.<\/p>\n
\nwants to remove Luthor from office, it is then my corollary assumption
\nthat Superman wants to become the Republican candidate for the United
\nStates Presidency.<\/p>\n
\nwhy though the ideas are interesting, much like my citation for
\nSuperman's republican belief system, and though Thyroros has
\ninteresting ideas, in that Superman WAS created in a time of intense
\nreligious oppression and might have come to mean something Satanic as a
\nstretch for several of DC's future star players, it just isn't likely.<\/p>\n
\npassing stereotypical reference to the fundamentalists walking down the
\nstreet I've seen once or twice, in passive stereotypical reference to
\nthe Jews of New York city, and the Jews, as a Biblical scholar will
\ntell you, are absolutely KEY to the Christian view of the end of times,
\nwhere many Jews are converted by the hand of God as the ever-present
\nAnti-Christ moves to enslave the last peoples of the world.<\/p>\n
\noffices of leadership save in the JLA, and this is a key element of the
\nAnti-Christ. He is seen as a leader of men, but he has no hand in
\npolicy, nor would he if he could. He believes sternly that mankind must
\nsurvive or fail on their own... he postulates non-interference.<\/p>\n
\nof media, and the most powerful outlet of media in his Universe...<\/p>\n
\nreligious preferences aside, at least in modern day, Superman has
\nbecome less of an allegory for a Nietzsche Superman and more a
\nmodern-day version of the embodied principles of the Biblical Christ.<\/p>\n
\nflaw and\/or benefit to the entire DC Universe depending on how you look
\nat it, as exemplified well in the JLA\/Avengers crossover. Mutants are
\nhated and Spider-Man is always on public trial, whereas Superman is a
\nbenevolent watcher, a man above us all who will swoop in and tell us
\nwhat is right and wrong when we have our occasional failings. He gives
\nsermons, he lives among us as a common man, and heck, there is the
\nundeniable fact that he did die and rise from the dead to save us all
\nfrom... well, Mongul, but you see my point. He's all powerful, beyond
\ndeath, and he's out to protect us from our sins rather than instigate
\nthem in devious manner. In this, Lex is more of the Morning Star, an
\nintelligent, Superman bucking type of guy not above killing in order to
\nbring about what he believes to be better than the God-Man, a new world
\norder at his own hands.<\/p>\n
\nexploit their own raw power. Superman is killed by a brainless monster
\nfor no real reason save to exploit its own raw power.<\/p>\n
\nas he spreads the good word. Superman has a JLA who listens to his
\nleadership and follow him as he spreads the good clobber on
\nunsuspecting do-badders.<\/p>\n
\nto solve their problems. Superman rose from the dead after three days
\nand spoke to people about how to solve their problems with Mongul.<\/p>\n
\ntempted with power by Luthor on the roof of the Luthorcorp building.<\/p>\n
\nhas, to my mind, a lot more in common with Jesus than Satan...<\/p>\n
\ndisparage Mr. Thyroros, because his ideas, while perhaps hard to take
\nin, are far more original, irreverent, and rebellious than my own, and
\nI have to have a great deal of respect for that. And he's taking a very
\nstrong and hard position to take with a hostile crowd, something I also
\nhave the utmost respect for... it's hard to take a stand on something
\nin the midst of many disparaging voices, and I encourage him for that.
\nEven though I disagree. And even if you do, I hope you encourage him as
\nwell. Such is the nature of furthering knowledge and discourse.<\/p>\n
\nNeal Bailey.<\/p>\n
\nfootnotes, just my common knowledge of Christianity from research for
\nmy second novel) Steve Younis pointed out a site for those of you
\ninterested in pursuing the Christian or Satanic aspect of Superman
\nfurther, in yet more well researched work by others...<\/p>\n