{"id":369,"date":"2006-10-13T02:45:12","date_gmt":"2006-10-13T02:45:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=369"},"modified":"2006-10-13T02:45:12","modified_gmt":"2006-10-13T02:45:12","slug":"apologetics-against-rev.-chen-chis-sermon:-10-08-2006-the-lords-supper","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=369","title":{"rendered":"Apologetics Against Rev. Chen Chi's Sermon: 10-08-2006 The Lord's Supper"},"content":{"rendered":"<p \/>\n<p>This entry is intended to give light from the Truth. The Truth shall set us free.<\/p>\n<p>Audio archive can be downloaded <a title=\"Rev Chen Chi's Sermon on The Lord's Supper\" href=\"http:\/\/scholars.homeip.net\/church\/2006-10_OCTOBER\/2006-10-08_sermon-rev_chi-the_lord_supper---rectification_at_the_end.mp3\">HERE<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>The term extremist would be preferable among other accusations.<\/p>\n<p>Summary:<\/p>\n<p><b>1. <\/b><b>Rev. Chi claimed according to the Bible, only vine (grape) fruit juice and unleavened bread can be used.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>First of all, the Bible never says one must use unleavened bread or wine or vine fruit. Consequently, if<br \/>\nthe formal was so, it would be very hard for some people in certain places and<br \/>\ncertain time to be able to fully appreciate the true meaning of Holy<br \/>\nCommunion. Therefore, without understanding of the true purpose of the<br \/>\nLord's Supper, Rev. Chi had given a sermon that's full of bondage and<br \/>\npromoting the risk of self destruction (2nd Peter 3:16). What a pity.\n<\/p>\n<p><b>2. (At Audio Recording time: 13:27) Rev. Chi used the verse<br \/>\n1Corinthians 11:27 to explain the word &quot;&#29702;&quot; from &quot;&#19981;&#25353;&#29702;&quot; to  further his<br \/>\nfirst point.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The original Greek word is &#945;&#787;&#957;&#945;&#958;&#953;&#769;&#969;&#962; (anaxio&#772;s),<br \/>\nmeans unworthily, as King James version translated. However Rev. Chi<br \/>\nhas superficially misunderstood the word &quot;&#29702;&quot; as rule, regulation, forms<br \/>\nof things, (a more proper word for the wrong definition would be &quot;&#31036;&quot;.<br \/>\nWithout any knowledge of the true meaning of the word, he bravely<br \/>\nexplained the word with the wrong definition in order to fit his own<br \/>\nopinion.<\/p>\n<p><b>3. (At Audio Recording time: 14:22) Treating the<br \/>\nbread and cup as actual body of Christ. (Audio Recording time 18:00)<br \/>\nRev. Chi tried to use 1Corinthians 11:29 to further his point.<br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The Catholics have similar notion, transubstantiation,<br \/>\nJohn Calvin has called it blasphemy, because of Christ only need to die<br \/>\nonce. The word in 1Corinthians 11:29 is &quot;discern&quot;. Rev. Chi's intention<br \/>\nis similar but hoping different effect. His intention is to expect a<br \/>\ngreat outcry from the crowds, a very pentacostal style way of<br \/>\n&quot;repentence&quot;. Why would I say this, every Holy communion he has<br \/>\nrepeatedly tempted the Lord by following the popular form of asking<br \/>\nthose who are touched or want to repent to come forward. None has ever<br \/>\ncome. One would say, he doesn't give up, good. But one has already<br \/>\nfailed to see this is testing God because a church is also to be<br \/>\nwitness to all, including to non-believers, hence, when the message is<br \/>\nnot clear, asking questions without giving answers, no responses, and<br \/>\nstill keep this going, this will give non-believers and others an<br \/>\nopportunity to mock God. This is not allowed. One who stands on the<br \/>\npulpit must be very sensitive at these sort of things. However, Rev.<br \/>\nChi would keep doing this because of one misunderstanding...he valued<br \/>\nsuperficial effect more than true faith, quality. So, when a church is<br \/>\nnot as actively &quot;repenting&quot; as those other examples he's seen, this<br \/>\nchurch is still not saved but awaiting to be saved.<\/p>\n<p>There are<br \/>\nmany more problems in the perversed message, such as contradictions,<br \/>\nhypocritical statements, lies, etc. But I have pointed out the main ones.<\/p>\n<p>The<br \/>\nHoly Communion is not a time to focus on our sins and repent, nor the type of bread\/wine used but a time for the<br \/>\nremembrance of our Lord Jesus Christ. If we keep saying that the Holy Communion is a time to focus on our sins, we would one day believe that it is okay for Christians to sin because we have a habit of repenting everytime during Holy Communion and this church would become a church that keeps on repenting, not able to be holy. Holy Communion is for Christians, the truly repented ones, not for non-christians. We must however, examine ourselves every second, every day, to be holy, and not to wait for the Holy Communion to<br \/>\ndo so. And there's no such thing as emphasizing our holiness MORE<br \/>\nduring this ceremony. Do we emphasize it any less in other times? This<br \/>\nis another example of superficial &quot;faith&quot;.<\/p>\n<p>So, the final<br \/>\nquestion: What do we do with pastors like that? Do we fire him? My<br \/>\nresponse would be &quot;No&quot;. However, by holding true to Biblical doctrine,<br \/>\nwe can reject such person's perversed teaching, reject following him<br \/>\nand beware of such person. Boldly correct false teachings is done in<br \/>\npublic, but knowing the time and place, for example, we shouldn't turn<br \/>\nthe sanctuary into a quarrelling or fighting place, it is God's holy<br \/>\nplace, everyone including non-believers should be able to see that, one<br \/>\nmust be wise at such thing even before it happens. But in situations where correction would<br \/>\ngreatly profit everyone, it is right to boldly correct in public. As<br \/>\nPaul did Peter.<\/p>\n<p>To this question, I would base my answer on:<br \/>\n<b><i>Mathew 23:1-3  Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his<br \/>\ndisciples,  saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:<br \/>\nAll therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but<br \/>\ndo not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. <\/i><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<p>[@more@]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This entry is intended to give light from the Truth. The Truth shall set us free. Audio archive can be downloaded HERE. The term extremist would be preferable among other accusations. Summary: 1. Rev. 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