{"id":6023,"date":"2015-02-03T19:12:43","date_gmt":"2015-02-03T23:12:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=6023"},"modified":"2015-06-01T19:38:55","modified_gmt":"2015-06-01T23:38:55","slug":"the-mindset-of-bible-classes-in-the-west","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=6023","title":{"rendered":"The Mindset of Bible Classes in the West"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I take my limited experience from Redeemer.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the Redeemer classes are apparently geared towards new believers. I want to grant the benefit of the doubt. But just to be fair, if it were the case, that Sunday Bible classes are meant for non-believers\/new believers, ALL\/most of the classes, then I must ask...do other believers\/older members need any Bible lessons anymore?<\/p>\n<p>The answer expected could be: Well, we have community groups (fellowships).<\/p>\n<p>My response: Many of the fellowships aren't taught to be experts. In fact, they were merely sharing, or at best, guided (printout materials) sharing\/discussions. Are there no expert obligations for the faithful believers? - Don't answer, I can answer for you - you want to say \"let them go enroll at seminaries, right?\" Behold, the collapse of Western theology.<\/p>\n<p>I think when serious professional Bible studies aren't geared toward faithful believers, it maintains or creates a proud sense of attitude towards non-believers\/new comers. \"We are the learned\", \"we are the wise Christians\", \"we don't study together with non\/new believers\".<\/p>\n<p>The reason I give Redeemer the benefit of the doubt is because there are classes that many long-term believers today would fail at: Apologetics and Predestination. But if they were to dumb down these classes out of an ulterior motive (as mentioned above), then it would be pathetic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I take my limited experience from Redeemer. Many of the Redeemer classes are apparently geared towards new believers. I want to grant the benefit of the doubt. But just to be fair, if it were the case, that Sunday Bible &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=6023\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6023","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-theologization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6023","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6023"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6023\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6316,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6023\/revisions\/6316"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6023"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6023"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6023"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}