{"id":2137,"date":"2011-09-29T14:44:02","date_gmt":"2011-09-29T14:44:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=2137"},"modified":"2011-09-29T14:44:02","modified_gmt":"2011-09-29T14:44:02","slug":"on-molinism:-matthew-11:23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=2137","title":{"rendered":"On Molinism: Matthew 11:23"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nBy 16th Century Jesuit Luis de Molina. Attempting to embrace both predestination doctrine and arminianism.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAlso known as the middle knowledge.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe Molinists use<br \/>\nMatthew 11:23 &quot;...if the mighty works done in you had been done in<br \/>\nSodom, it would have remained until this day&quot; to make their claim.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nMolinism categorize God's knowledge into 3:\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>1<\/strong><strong>. Necessary truths (<\/strong>Food<br \/>\nis meant to be eaten, etc.) I say this is the first gate for molinists<br \/>\nto fall into a God confined in logic. For it is logical because God say<br \/>\nit is, not the other way around.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>2. Natural knowledge<\/strong> (all possibilities of the universe) I<br \/>\nsay this is when molinists are over fascinated with mathematical<br \/>\nprobability of things. If one would like to argue the presence of<br \/>\nnatural knowledge in God, I would ask why must God confine Himself among<br \/>\nthe logical possibilities we perceive? It would be ridiculous to say<br \/>\nthat these possibilities are perceived by God unless one fell for<br \/>\ncategory 1's claim.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>3. God's free knowledge:<\/strong> outcomes<br \/>\ndependent upon God. I say here the molinists imagined God being put in a<br \/>\nplayground and is observed (by men?). Should the molinists claim God as<br \/>\ncreator of logic, then why not eliminate the above two categories? It's<br \/>\na bit unecessary.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThus, their &quot;<strong>middle knowledge<\/strong>&quot; is the knowledge of God between 2 &amp; 3. That God knows if I'm going to wear pink today without Him interfering.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBy<br \/>\nthis way, they believe they've solved the election vs. free will<br \/>\nproblem. That God presents different paths in different individuals'<br \/>\nlives in a way that they could freely choose Christ.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nWith this I see a few problems that could be solved in the following understanding:\n<\/p>\n<p>\n1. That God is not God but is under what we know as &quot;Logic&quot;.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n2. That we are but puppets with the<strong> illusion of free will <\/strong>fatefully<br \/>\ntwist and turn by God's commands like coins falling into the coin<br \/>\npusher machine in a direction perfectly planned by a professional<br \/>\nplayer.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nMolinism can easily discount the work of the Holy Spirit.<br \/>\nAnd it is obvious, they do not understand &quot;regeneration&quot;. For to them,<br \/>\nan elect is merely shown the path to holiness; not s<strong>upernaturally regenerated<\/strong><br \/>\nto walk a new path in holiness. Without acknowledging the work of the<br \/>\nHoly Spirit, the molinists are in danger of a non-relationship knowledge<br \/>\nof God. Something John Calvin warned in his Institutes that one cannot<br \/>\ntruly know God without reverence to Him.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nNow back to the source, Matthew 11:23. Which of all the verses they quote, is their strongest support:\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI<br \/>\nsay our Lord was commanding humility in Capernaum, as if they thought<br \/>\nthey were better than Sodom. That they were conscious enough to judge<br \/>\nSodom wicked, but they were ignorant of their own wickedness. And should<br \/>\nthey recognize God's immense mercy in the almighty works, which was<br \/>\nlegitimately not shown to Sodom, they should have repented urgently<br \/>\nwhile the gracious Lord was walking among them.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nNone of this is<br \/>\ndiscounting the work of the Holy Spirit. It only shows how wicked we are<br \/>\nand those we deemed sodomites could easily be less wicked than us, if<br \/>\nGod would grant them mercy and prolong their nation.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThis verse is not talking about logic of things, but the need of pure humility to see God.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd<br \/>\nin verse 24, Christ has revealed that Sodom had been shown more mercy<br \/>\nthan Capernaum. Not that Sodom's status has changed, but that Sodom to<br \/>\nCapernaum is as a drug user to a drug lord. That it is revealed that the<br \/>\nwickedness of Capernaum is worse than they thought.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By 16th Century Jesuit Luis de Molina. Attempting to embrace both predestination doctrine and arminianism. Also known as the middle knowledge. The Molinists use Matthew 11:23 &quot;...if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=2137\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2137","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-vocabularies"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2137","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2137"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2137\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2137"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2137"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2137"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}