{"id":4978,"date":"2014-06-19T02:06:09","date_gmt":"2014-06-19T06:06:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=4978"},"modified":"2014-06-19T02:08:03","modified_gmt":"2014-06-19T06:08:03","slug":"ligonier-class-apologetics-i","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=4978","title":{"rendered":"Ligonier Class: Apologetics I"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had to look up Sproul on Presuppositional apologetics. I have learned long ago that Sproul was a Thomist, whose approach is classicism.<\/p>\n<p>It is good that there is a direct source:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/a4xyK1t6eyQ\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>From what I could fathom, Sproul's argument against Presuppositionalism is merely based on defending his classical apologetics. He threw in<em> petitio principii<\/em> (circular logic flaw), equivocation fallacy (misuse of definition) and a \"tie\" (like kissing your sister which is uninteresting\/unnecessary).<\/p>\n<p>What Sproul failed to realize is that the presuppositional apologetics essentially calls the prove of the existence of God irrelevant, unnecessary and is beneath God. In this sense, God's existence cannot be proven. This is not to say that God can be disproved.<\/p>\n<p>It must be clear that presuppositional apologetics does not nullify other forms of apologetics. It merely stands on to of them in importance and forms a foundation for the rest of them in methodology. Presuppositional apologetics is not to tell someone he\/she is lying about his\/her disbelief in God, but to help the evangelist to understand and build efficient means of doing apologetics in any particular circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, Sproul has already disqualified classical apologetics from presuppositionalism point of view when he was fixated on proving the existence of God, which is secondary in apologetics. This is not to say that Sproul is unaware of Romans 1:18-20, which is the strong pillar of presuppositional apologetics. However, by not considering the importance of presuppositional apologetics, Sproul made evangelism less enthusiastic, less personal for the energy for it have shifted to the scholastic dissection of apologetics. Though it is unfortunate that after Van Til, Westminster is facing tough financial dilemma; The Ligonier method of fundraising is very disturbing, in fact the very nature of fundraising is disturbing for any church. There is no differentiation between that and offering anymore, which is a problem. The only reason Ligonier or RTS could survive Westminster is because they do more outreach. Not evangelism, but books and talks. Westminster somehow could do only very little of it. The brain has become too heavy for the legs to move the preacher.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, even a great weapon could still be rendered ineffective because the last of its imperfection is its user.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had to look up Sproul on Presuppositional apologetics. I have learned long ago that Sproul was a Thomist, whose approach is classicism. It is good that there is a direct source: From what I could fathom, Sproul's argument against &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/?p=4978\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4978","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-theologization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4978","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4978"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4978\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4981,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4978\/revisions\/4981"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4978"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4978"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nycphantom.com\/journal\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4978"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}