Sunday Service Summary 2022-02-06

Since I don't have enough time to delve into Revelation (in Sunday School), or Hebrews, because I need more time to start these from scratch again, using Stephen Tong's Hebrews expository and do more research into Revelation. But here are some quick notes:

We did Revelation 19. Will be starting on Rev. 20 this coming Sunday. It's going be premill. fun. Dispensationalism, aliens too maybe, Zechariah 14.

Angels were noted as not knowing grace. I think the main backing for this is 1 Peter 1:12. Although, I think to not know is a bit far fetch, which is different than "desire to look into". Not able to experience grace is right, and that's still not the same as not know. We are not adhering to experientialism. Ray Prichard talked about similar thing as them: What Angels Wish They Knew, he has a better and careful approach on this topic. We don't say angels don't know grace, because they know enough to wonder about grace, just that they do not share or experience it as we do. Angels who are righteous, they certainly can perceive sins in sinners even though they sin not; while fallen angels live in sins and they would appear be satisfy with perfect vindication of their own, I suppose. I would think to approach angelic desire to witness grace from this starting point.

I also don't think angels are "God machines" as pastor tempted to call it. Pak Tong has a better take on this, that they are spiritual beings but unlike us, they are closer to God in such a way that they are not given a "second chance" like we do. I think I need to look further into this. What would the Angelic Doctor (Thomas Aquinas) say about this?

As far as judging angels go, I don't know why it's always about judging the bad, hence they say we shall judge the fallen angels, only the devil and his minions, not the righteous ones. But I think we certainly can judge the righteous ones too. The role of a judge is more than just condemning the bad, that's a very limited human notion, and not even apt to be defined in this world. I wonder if that's a fundamentalist influence - they would certainly inherit the admiration of someone who shouts judgment upon sinners like commanding fire and hail stones down upon the land. Maybe add a little vibrato in their singing voice as they call down such judgment.

There's also talk of whether there is gender distinction between man and woman after judgment. Pastor Chris' take is yes, as would I. I know Stephen Tong once said no, but he was talking about marriage related matter, so I would like to ask him this question when I get the chance. The basic reasoning is this: God created man and woman before the fall, so why remove that distinction? Yes, there is no marriage as Jesus said it, but would that negate gender? Is gender just for marriage? How is God's kingdom going to look like? I do not know now.

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