The Fundamentalist-Modernist Controversy

This is going to be a long topic as I've came across and learned from various sources such as Reformed Forum and online searches about this. Let it be known that the content here will not be organized, however, I will try my best to tidy it.

This is not too relevant to creation day age problem as it shouldn't, so that will not be here, and I already have that else where in my journal.

Other than Reformed Forum materials, I today looked up Henry Van Dyke vs. Gresham Machen, since I heard from Darryl G. Hart: Liberalism, the Different Religion, Van Dyke walked out of Machen's sermon, which popularized Machen's book on Christianity and Liberalism. I had to looked Van Dyke up after realizing that he's the author of the lyrics for Beethoven's Ode to Joy: Joyful Joyful We Adore Thee. I remember WTS faculty and jazz enthusiast William Edgar staunchly said he would never sing it. I briefly read the lyrics again, didn't seem to be a big deal. Tough, since Van Dyke walked out on Machen, one would presume that he is a modernist. But he would disagree, according to his article here (I'll post it in the comment to in case of broken link, and put my own comments/notes in that comment as I read through it). Despite rejection the labels for modernist and literalist, I do not believe Van Dyke has escaped out of the woods yet. Judging from his article, he reads as a modernist who denied such label. He did not think the virgin birth is important, apparently (because the Bible is inconsistent about it - Luke 2:33, Matthew 1:16), or at least we shouldn't take the Bible so literally. Then Van Dyke attacked the fundamentalists/literalists on lack of good work (social gospel), complicate ideas using scripture against simple minded folks (I think Van Dyke actually just proved himself looking down on simple folks). For him, just simply come to Jesus and do good works, forget about theological definitions.

Update 9/29/2026: Long delayed update, transferring from my phone notes: J. Gresham Machen never called himself fundamentalist, as Darryl Hart recalled on Reformed Forum @2:43: Famously expressed this exact sentiment in a 1927 letter declining the presidency of Bryan Memorial University, noting that he preferred the rich, historic system of Reformed theology over a narrow list of core fundamentals.

Full quote: "Thoroughly consistent Christianity, to my mind, is found only in the Reformed or Calvinistic Faith... Hence I never call myself a “Fundamentalist.”... But after all, what I prefer to call myself is not a “Fundamentalist” but a “Calvinist”—that is, an adherent of the Reformed Faith." (You can find the full quote in the referenced web documents). [1]

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The Reason I left some churches isn't inconsequential

Primarily, it's due to a none to anti Gospel centeredness, which takes time to confirm. But what then? Other than saying to them in their ignorance and pride should they have any chance to commit them (Haha, look at you now that you have left, the state that you are in): Had I not left, I would have had been in a worst state had I stayed with you all right now. Is my default response.

However, there is another good reason: Attitude and principle on serving. Theologically. For example, it is virtually accurate for me to not associate my definition of being a servant of God with theirs.

For example, this entry came to mind when I was reminded of when Rev. Lin of CCCNY once asked me "are you serving in that other church", to which I responded "No". At the time, I was thinking "Well, actually listening to sermons is already considered serving, but you wouldn't understand." Now, I've come to conclude that my response to her will always be "No", because of other reasons on defining servitude in the Lord, unless that definition is corrected, on her end, for instance. For example, I would still answer No, I'm not serving, to her, because according to her, serving is a burden stripped of pleasure, from our past correspondence. Therefore, we do not have the same definition on serving, so No, I would never be serving in the church according to her definition. Her worst rebellious response, which I doubt she would, unlike the narrow minded fundamentalists, would be to accuse me of lying.

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Fundamental Difference Between the Reformed and Fundamentalism

The fundamentalists only has obedience; While the Reformed has first reliance and then obedience.

The fundamentalists may proclaim reliance, but they are not able to distinguish the difference between reliance and obedience.

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Vocabulary: 碰瓷 Staged Crash

Funny

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Events of the week

After my dad looped me in on this violinist (Timothy Chooi), I subscribed and learned the name of that piece I've always wanted to remember: Czardas by Vittorio Monti, a fast Hungarian violin piece I first heard back in Penang when a group of Taiwanese young musicians performed. I still remembered that my class monitor (or maybe vice monitor) Mei Mei was there with her family as well at the concert. I'm buying a shoulder rest for my violin, going to try it for the first time, after all these years of using plain cloth on my shoulder.

11/30 Apparently the FEIT Electric Smart Plug works with Smart Life (simply go to the app and Add device and follow instructions from there), as well as Alexa. Added "Plant Light" for our indoor plants: i.e. Calamondin.

11/30 Interestingly, it appears that according to https://map.worldweatheronline.com/temperature that the entire globe was pretty cool yesterday (11/29), no where in the world was above 30C if not 25C.

A fun discourse on FB using Presuppositional Apologetics between someone named Eric and I:

It's either revelation of a creator or not, can't be the latter, so...

Seth Branch

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What is one of the reasons you believe the Bible is true? I'm curious to know.

For me (and I'm partly taking from Voddie Baucham's response as I highly agree with it), one of the reasons I believe the Bible is true is because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses in the lifetime of other eyewitnesses, over the course of more than 1,400 years, on 3 separate continents, in 3 separate languages; all woven together to form a single continuous story from start to finish.

(This is a short reason, as a lot can be unpacked from it)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1493330220801352/posts/2671026606365035/?cft[0]=AZXJCnh1mzxJmAXXz2jGRcQLSXtnWNG2MqSX3I_7zykImmBjVLwC3Z4MFK3yYtjLUrsGosxbQqkl5fgyHGLSxN6cbCvuAgIPHePBAB5fIsp0E4-9GXm1kyfas7BmEgvn_oXOJb9FoLzZhOxUKx5sX4da&tn=%2CO%2CP-R

Timothy Law

It's either revelation of a creator or not, can't be the latter, so...

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Office 365 and Powershell

Apparently, EXO V3 changes the game in command for signing into Exchange Online. Otherwise, my SP powershell script returns "access denied" when trying to login.

So use Install-Module ExchangeOnlineManagement to upgrade from EXO V2 to V3. Then the O365 command to login is easy: Connect-ExchangeOnline, and a better looking prompt to sign in pops up.

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Reflection of the Week

11/17 Got Gutter cleaned from same guy Phil. This time he brought a helper. It was windy, around 30-40sF. They came at around 3:30pm. Sun would set around 4:30pm. I was busy with SPG so I couldn't pay much attention to their work. Not sure if they thoroughly cleaned the top roof gutters as I saw Phil cleaning out some leaves at the end when he helped me with a loose downspout I showed him by the chimney. It was spotted by Willy months ago when he saw tiny birds flying in and out of it, as if making nest in the soffit (eaves). He was so willingly to fix it for me I didn't mind giving him $30 on top of the $150 fee for the cleaning.

Because it didn't look too bad after not having him (or anyone else) clean it for two years, he felt that we don't need to install any gutter guards, which we did buy from Costco. So we likely return them, if not, I could install them at the lower level because the labor ain't cheap (roughly $1k for the whole house).

I also got him to advise me on how to fix that racoon/squirrel/bird hole at the lower soffit outside of the master bedroom, above the mudroom. Basically, bend a aluminum foil/plate and nail it to seal the hole.

Here's some terminologies for the roof and parts of a house.

Source: https://www.pjfitz.com/about-us/additional-resources/glossary/

At 11:30am on 11/17, I did a postponed (was so sorry for missing the first conference/survey) survey interview by MicroStrategies on cloud security among other IT related matters particularly that could help NYGC apparently in Microsoft Defender (available at A5, and does deal with ransomware though not sure how great compare to Carbon Black which seems to be very expensive and does better job) installation, migrating MS Access to Azure (AVD) virtual environment for cloud access (an alternative to converting mdb to SQL which I still prefer because I am not yet to be familiar with Azure that well), hosted by BeTechly which was the reason I agreed to this as they would order GRUBHUB free meal for me, tips included for the delivery, as well as sending me a tile pro (short range tracking device). This lead to my criticism on my once favorite Indian restaurant nearby "Royal Indian Restaurant". They used to be cheap, under $8 for lamb biryani, and even supposed to have lunch buffet which I was not aware of, but since COVID19, they went up to $15, and now $18. And on my last visit to pick up the food, they have new staffs who didn't seem all that friendly. So I am taking off my favorite sign on google map for this and looking for other Indian restaurants worth visiting. Perhaps returning to the once more expensive ($18 now for lamb biryani) Tower of India, which I thought they shutdown permanently because of COVID19. BeTechly even had a hard time ordering for me via GRUBHUB from Royal Indian restaurant because for some reason, even after waiting an hour until their opening time 1PM (yes, this late on Thursday), the order got canceled by the restaurant, allegedly (makes me wonder if they were just lazy or incompetent with their business - food's still good though), and so we went for Tower of India. They were going to order me two Mango Lassi before, but with Tower of India, just ended up with one biryani and one mango lassi, as with tips, would maxed out the $35 budget they offer.

I could consider getting NYGC on 1 A5 subscription license, mainly mine, for the server, just because of Defender, we'll see. I need to do further study on this.

A few weeks ago, I saw a need to do a deeper study in the Original Sin, after pastor Chris didn't seem to know what I was talking about when I was trying to relate some passages in Ecclesiastes 7 to the Original Sin. Because during the Thursday Bible study, many have opinioned in such a way as if the problem of man is that we are imperfect, almost alluding to the fact that we were created imperfect by God though they would deny it, because they only wish to compare our lowlihood to God level. That kind of imperfection, that kind of lesser being. Nothing about the original sin. Sure, the pastor immediately interrupted that the whole book or even the Bible might as well, is about original sin. Either they lack the knowledge of original sin or they refuse to actually admit original sin. "The book of Job is telling us that we are not God", the pastor said. I used to believe that, but after Pak Tong, I learned that No, it's not about telling us that we are not God, but God was teaching Job about the original sin. And after this Bible study on Ecclesiastes (so I suppose some credit does go to Pastor Chris' zeal in teaching/leading in a biblical way), I have further concluded that the book of Job, even Ecclesiastes, is about the difference between having the (right) KNOWLEDGE of GOD vs. having a (right) RELATIONSHIP with GOD. In Job, we have Job repenting saying "I've heard of you (knowledge) but now I see you (relationship)", while in Ecclesiastes 9:4-5 we have he who is joined with all the living has hope - this living IS a relationship with GOD. Only in such do we have true living fellowship with other living ones for God is the God of the living and not of death. I should start with Jonathan Edward and others' works in the Original Sin.

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Microsoft Teams - Ways to tell regular from Work/School version

Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-teams-for-work-or-school-in-windows-11-5dd5f1e3-74ae-437d-b6b7-ce5825bba1cf

Regular version: starts with 2. e.g. "2.4.0.0.12345"
School/Work version: starts with 1. e.g. "1.4.0.0.12345"

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Supernova

Best Explanation so far I came across by Veritasium. Archived in Library drive folder:

"Academics\Astronomy\Supernova\What Happens If A Star Explodes Near The Earth.mkv"

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Important Church Piano Workshop by Samuel Ling

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